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ecoli73 said:
It appears from your own experience sometimes a nip is more than a nip and it only takes one hit.

As for why GATF not being bred in captivity, for one thing, the fish is not for everyone, it is not even for 1% of the fish keepers out there. So frankly it makes zero economic sense to do it commercially for the trade when the price of wc already droped to the current level. Frankly the best chance for success would be having a home in the tropics and throw a dozen of these things in a large lake or pond instead of trying to do this in a tank.



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a nip is diff from a bite your missing that, this was a bite.

i am only referencing gatf in this as one example of the many fish that are not captive bred. they all should start in a tank. whos to say i don't have a pond at my access to use for breeding projects of what ever i choose. just pointing out things that are possible, but not if no one tries to mix any.
 
sbuse said:
a nip is diff from a bite your missing that, this was a bite.

i am only referencing gatf in this as one example of the many fish that are not captive bred. they all should start in a tank. whos to say i don't have a pond at my access to use for breeding projects of what ever i choose. just pointing out things that are possible, but not if no one tries to mix any.
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If you have, then I do not think you would be trying so hard to get them to work out in a 125..or at least trying things out in a 125 would be the wrong place to start.


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ecoli73 said:
If you have, then I do not think you would be trying so hard to get them to work out in a 125..or at least trying things out in a 125 would be the wrong place to start.


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is putting them in at 3" and having them grow to 8" while living together trying hard? cause damn it wasn't that hard from my perspective. the only time i "tried hard" was when i had a tanks space issue with some gars and i made a divider in the tigerfish tank till i could get my 40gal running. a gar got around the divider and wounded a gatf, i moved it healed it then reintroduced it. that reintroduced fish was smaller from the hospital tank and didn't grow as fast after that. it was smaller and it was the one that got killed. now it could have happened from the size diff. now i am selling one and i will keep one. just because it appears to you that you have all the answers to everything doesn't mean you do. i actually have a few ponds at my access. i am just not using them right now. i am also building a massive tank/pond in the basement of the house i am getting, but that is a different story for a different time. people need to look around and see i am not just the kid down the street, i have been keeping fish for over 20yrs. i do my research before i get fish unlike most. that lets me have my growth rates and large healthy fish. i'll look up the dates to show my gatfs growth rates.


feb 8 of this year they were 4" now they are 8". 4" in 5 months, slower then any other fish i have, but good for gatf standards.
 
Why do people put MBU's w/Rays? Because its the thing to do... pushing limits of others failures.

Why does ExoticFishGuy have a 2' Goliath in a 300gl (looks smaller though)... to push the limits

Why do I see few Pbass and Discus combos... to push the limits

Why did I mix my 16" VATF w/2-4" Discus... to push the limits

Why did I try to mix Gold Wolf, Goliath, Armatus etc.... in the same tank (check my pics).... to p___ t__ l____'s

Why the heck do people try to mix Aimara w/anything??



Why do we attack someone's attempt at whatever goal was intended? Wasn't your friggin money!... to push buttons!

This site has died down like no other from jerks chiming in to say why their head is bigger. Sucks how most of these new booties are (old ones too)! I'll be the first to say I had a role in flaming peeps on what IIII didnt agree with. I think i've done a good job on keeping my comments positive on others threads (unless clowning around Lol).



Sbuse, keep doing your thing big dogg. I would rather see "trying combos" than the same tank mates over and over and over......

by the way... R1_ridah had 5-8 ATF's in one tank and no one flamed him. Another guy selling VATF's in the bay area had 8pcs or so in a 180 if I remember right... no one flamed him.... SMH.
 
West1 said:
Why do people put MBU's w/Rays? Because its the thing to do... pushing limits of others failures.

Why does ExoticFishGuy have a 2' Goliath in a 300gl (looks smaller though)... to push the limits

Why do I see few Pbass and Discus combos... to push the limits

Why did I mix my 16" VATF w/2-4" Discus... to push the limits

Why did I try to mix Gold Wolf, Goliath, Armatus etc.... in the same tank (check my pics).... to p___ t__ l____'s

Why the heck do people try to mix Aimara w/anything??



Why do we attack someone's attempt at whatever goal was intended? Wasn't your friggin money!... to push buttons!

This site has died down like no other from jerks chiming in to say why their head is bigger. Sucks how most of these new booties are (old ones too)! I'll be the first to say I had a role in flaming peeps on what IIII didnt agree with. I think i've done a good job on keeping my comments positive on others threads (unless clowning around Lol).



Sbuse, keep doing your thing big dogg. I would rather see "trying combos" than the same tank mates over and over and over......

by the way... R1_ridah had 5-8 ATF's in one tank and no one flamed him. Another guy selling VATF's in the bay area had 8pcs or so in a 180 if I remember right... no one flamed him.... SMH.
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thanks and i'll solve the puzzle..."to push the limits"? i loved joeys stuff and no one ever question it. i would agree exotics whole setup and fish are smaller then stated.


aldiaz33 said:
I'm beginning to see a pattern in your threads. It's almost as if you are trying to do things that are a really bad idea...not sure to what end.

In this thread you were wondering why 5 aros along with a half dozen other monster fish that grow 3'+ in a 180G didn't work out: http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?464429-why-can-t-i-have-an-aro-group
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i am beginning to see your retarded

actually those aros died from poisoning and not because of anything else. so before you look like another dumbass read the things you try to use against someone, oh to late for that. they were all doing just fine until that poison got in the tank. to bad you can understand that part of it you just see that i had a mix of monsters in what you say is to small of a tank for the time frame they were in there. didn't know about my ponds that i can use did you? no you just seen them in the 180gal at less then 24" each they all had plenty of room and thats why they died. see post #66 among others to see that. since none of the fish that get over 3' were even close to that mark i fail to see how it isn't possible. all fish have grow out tanks....

why is just about everyone retarded? if it were to have worked i would get praises for having the nuts to try it, if it doesn't then i get call a jackass. i break the limits of the possible often and yet somethings don't always work look around at all the combos out there we would have none of them if someone didn't spend the money and take the risk.
 
the hell with it!

everyone that is a puss afraid of risks go watch your guppies!

to everyone else lets go get a drink!:cheers:
 
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sbuse said:
the hell with it!

everyone that is a puss afraid of risks go watch your guppies!

to everyone else lets go get a drink!:cheers:
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I can't speak for anyone else in this thread, But I admire Your work. You are one of My favorite Posters, Someone who is not afraid to post Successes as well As failures.

I'm learning from You. Pardon me for being the new Kid on the block, But I aint never heard of some of these other Posters in this thread.

Keep doing what You're doing,
Whether You succeed or fail,
Remember the Haters are pursuing.
 
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