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nativeshark

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This is uhh... Would be incredible if the OP had substantial funding and know-how..
I applied for 501c status and for a few grants. I know California still has some stimulus money stashed away for environmental projects. I am also in contact with the Catalina Island Conservation. I have over 85 acres of land. If I allow them to use it for conservation purposes there organization will supply the man power needed to maintain the pond. My dad works with investors. Catalina Island is becoming big on tourism. The Catalina Island Conservation with prepare a present a plan on my behalf. A portion of the profits will be given to the Catalina Island Conservation which will help me maintain 501c status and continue my envormental quest to protect the ecosystem of Catalina and create a new species.
 

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I have DAN insurance. I also have a fish ID card from when I dove in the kelp forest. I will bring that along to help out.
I will hook you up to. Just give me your feed back. Come to the fishing tournament, I will cover you fee for you.
 

nativeshark

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A set up is not just a natural body of water. Now thinking about it, I think during high tide anyone could go in your lagoon and scuba, snorkel, or fish. I believe that no one citizen owns the ocean so anyone can go into your pond when it is flooded during high tide
It only becomes part of the ocean several times a month. If this is true I will allow everyone to come snorkel scuba and fish for free. It will be fenced in to prevent animals from escaping.
 

Ppoeschl

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can we please dispell the myth that you are going to "create a new species" this is a pipe dream and has no scientific background. What you are going to get is a bunch of inbred animals if you actually succeed in breeding something. i would think someone with a biology background would know this... also, you cannot get a fish named after you even if you succeed... as species are never named after the person whom discovered it.
 

hanwyz

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You can name a species after someone else, but it is not ethically correct to name a species that *you* have found after *yourself*... That is, the discoverer could choose to name it after someone else, or after someone who had paid for it, but could not call it after himself without it being frowned on by the scientific community.
http://www.archive.org/stream/rulesforzoologi00sciegoog#page/n0/mode/1up
http://www.quora.com/Is-it-possible-to-name-new-species-after-yourself
http://mailman.nhm.ku.edu/pipermail/taxacom/2006-March/047475.html

So if you want to "discover" a new species, then, in the highly detailed peer reviewed paper that you write describing it, you cannot name it after yourself without annoying the scientific people who have to decide whether to publish your paper or not.

I also think you are hoping too much with finding a new species. You may create hybrids, or possibly, like dogs, "breeds" - ie short term adaptation to the environment and human influence, but I don't believe that that is a new species. I believe for it to be a species, there must be a large difference in genetic code or possibly that the new species is unable to breed with the species it descended from.

As an idea: humans are all one species. An Aboriginal human could produce healthy, fertile offspring with an Inuit. However, a human (any race of human) would be unable to create viable offspring with a chimpanzee. Therefore, this shows that, despite outward appearance, humans of different races are the same species (as an analogy to dogs, different races are different "breeds" adapting to the differing environments and external factors that they are exposed to. Humans and Chimps, however, are clearly different species and are unable to reproduce with us to create a new species - and despite us being from a common ancestor we are unable to breed. So I think, the sharks that will breed will either produce new breeds within the same species, or inter-special breeding might well produce hybrids (which are often infertile - Ligers, mules etc)

http://www.thenakedscientists.com/HTML/questions/qotw/question/3344/
http://genesn13.imascientist.org.uk...ll-it-make-a-whole-different-kind-of-species/
http://www.macroevolution.net/hybrid-infertility.html#.UxCg7UJ_v-o
http://www.nature.com/scitable/topicpage/hybrid-incompatibility-and-speciation-820
http://dogcare.dailypuppy.com/much-genetic-difference-there-between-breeds-dogs-5803.html

A good smaller scale experiment: http://www.education.com/science-fair/article/species-vs-breed-difference/

Sorry this was a bit of a long post. I've tried to do some research on it, but finding reliable scientific papers is quite tricky - I have tried though. Please also bear in mind that I am a geophysics student, so could tell you lots about the magmatic evolution of igneous rocks for example, but not as much about animal evolution (not studied huge amounts of palaeontology, and what I did as a child was just dabbling). Hope this is helpful and that people find some of the links interesting. The first one is the official rules of nomenclature from the 1800's so is really quite fascinating...
 

nativeshark

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I have no problem with people being mad because I named a species after me. It is my protected rights under the first amendment. Eventually a hybrid can become its own species.
 

Aweshade9

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I have no problem with people being mad because I named a species after me. It is my protected rights under the first amendment. Eventually a hybrid can become its own species.
It take either a positive mutation or hundreds of years to have a new species. You would be long gone and your lagoon long gone before a new species happens. And that is way to small for enough genetic variation to occur. By generation 5 or so (if it makes it that far) they would all be inbred deformed animals barely able to survive.
 
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