Occupy Wall Street?
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this is a pretty big deal. i heard of it when it happened but i just never cared to look further into it...and dont watch the media for this story. like always the media always downplay and dumb down the public and try to cover these kinda of situation up.
What "leaders" ? and who's leaders are you talking about...Collectives do not have leaders they work in committee. that is not a core demand at all. Fair share... well yeah, that is one... but not this Buffet crap or anything from the Dems or Republicans for that matter.. Most of us see what is going on with all of that and know it is crap. Media continues to spin this in a different light than what is really going on and now I see even alternative media is just backing down to the master and working just as much to de-legitimize this movement to take back control of our government from these thieves..
Warren once said that he like to mess with smaller gov for fun but the US was too big. Anyone else think his statement was his attempt to mess with .gov?
sorry, video is too long for me to watch now.
I don't deny the govt is needed for some stuff as us the people are too stupid to behave properly... at the same time I don't need the govt telling what kind of health insurance I should have.
I guess Im a 1%er.
My wife and I had our daughter when she was 19 and I was 20 (not married at the time). We barely made $20K a year and in college. Determined to not be another statistic we worked hard. We took not ONE cent from the .gov though we easily could have gotten money from the gooberment. We knew we could manage and didnt want to be a part of the problem. We paid our own rent, health care, food, EVERYTHING on our OWN.
What did we do? We worked, worked hard. Now four and a half years later we make over 5x more then when our daughter was born, moved to the Gulf Coast just because we wanted to, saved money, bought cars (not brand new fancy smancy things) two boats, taken vacations, a healthy savings account and over all have lived very happily. We have ZERO debt other than our house. The key is hard work and most importantly LIVE WITHIN YOUR MEANS. If we can do it, ANYONE can.
I have NO sympathy for people who say "The Man" keeps them down. That isnt true, only YOU keep yourself down in this great country. People these days think they deserve everything. You know what, you dont. If you spent $100K to get your masters in Theater, Art History or underwater basket weaving and find out you cant get a job, you know what, its your own damn fault. Learn something USEFUL and youll get a job. Dont put giant holes in your ears and youll get a job. Take a shower every now and then and youll get a job. Flipping burgers isnt below ANYONE and is just as honorable as being the CEO of a multi million dollar company as long as you work hard and work towards your own personal goal.
I could go on and on. But remember, if I can do it, you can too.
Go Cain!
My wife and I had our daughter when she was 19 and I was 20 (not married at the time). We barely made $20K a year and in college. Determined to not be another statistic we worked hard. We took not ONE cent from the .gov though we easily could have gotten money from the gooberment. We knew we could manage and didnt want to be a part of the problem. We paid our own rent, health care, food, EVERYTHING on our OWN.
What did we do? We worked, worked hard. Now four and a half years later we make over 5x more then when our daughter was born, moved to the Gulf Coast just because we wanted to, saved money, bought cars (not brand new fancy smancy things) two boats, taken vacations, a healthy savings account and over all have lived very happily. We have ZERO debt other than our house. The key is hard work and most importantly LIVE WITHIN YOUR MEANS. If we can do it, ANYONE can.
I have NO sympathy for people who say "The Man" keeps them down. That isnt true, only YOU keep yourself down in this great country. People these days think they deserve everything. You know what, you dont. If you spent $100K to get your masters in Theater, Art History or underwater basket weaving and find out you cant get a job, you know what, its your own damn fault. Learn something USEFUL and youll get a job. Dont put giant holes in your ears and youll get a job. Take a shower every now and then and youll get a job. Flipping burgers isnt below ANYONE and is just as honorable as being the CEO of a multi million dollar company as long as you work hard and work towards your own personal goal.
I could go on and on. But remember, if I can do it, you can too.
Go Cain!
I greatly encourage you to leave this thread; not everyone has the good fortune of having the success that you did even if they live within their means and work hard. The idea that hard work and living within your means will get you any where in life is a major fallacy; most people who do so never see the level of success that should be expected from the effort that they put into keeping themselves and their families afloat. One of the main points of these protests is to keep to the 8 hour a day/40 hour work week that was made the standard so long ago for being able to support oneself without having to sacrifice health, time with family, etc. while still being able to live on the provided wage and not have to worry about having enough money in order to get by should something bad come up. Nowadays, it's tough to get by one just one job, let alone two, and people often forgo things such as health insurance in order to get by; while they may be fine in the short-term, they and their families might not fare so well should they get sick or injured and find themselves unable to work even if they have a healthy savings account.
Also, Cain's "awesome" 9-9-9 plan increases taxes on pretty much anyone who doesn't have a ton of money e.g. middle class and lower class while lowering taxes for the upper class and big businesses, so he's definitely not someone that we should support at all!
Sorry wrong. I have yet to meet anyone who is in a hole because they worked hard and avoided bad decisions. Some have a rougher start than others but unless you are disabled your hole is one you dug. I had to spend a year as a commercial diver to help fund college and still have debt but I got it in a field (Bio Med Eng.) that pays a fat salary. To answer the obvious retort, no engineering does not require great intellect or mechanical aptitude it requires standing there for 4-7 years and getting hit in the face over and over. Not having started a family prior to this painful endeavor helps but is not required.
I could have had a great awesome time in college, lit major, music major or communications major. They spent plenty of time partying. Those same individuals laughed at me for wasting my youth in engineering. College was a horrible experince and grad school was worse. Now I get to pay 30% Income and 10% home owner while I build my future and investments. You now want me after crap canning my best years to feel any pity for those idiots who laughed. Not just at me, this "intellectual" who looked down at the votech grad. The spoiled rich kid who laughed at banker's son that had to deliver pizza cause his dad wouldn't give him a free ride. The cheerleader who laughed at the nerdy kid but now wants that same nerdy kid to cover her 3 kids from the football hero that was never getting near the NFL.
The only support I have for the movement is for the vets. These men and women have earned the right to protest anything, anywhere and anytime. They are the reason these protestors get to squabble about entitlement. I'm not the 99% nor have I even been treated anything but badly by that 99% growing up in a blue collar neighborhood.
@JD7.62: As a commercial diver I'd like to point out under water basket weaving is really hard and actually pays well. Not sure if Cain's proposal will work but it beats the "Tax the rich" which means tax anyone making more than me.
So because your view point differs from mine you want me to leave. Typical for your type.
I find it funny you said that people that work hard don't always have success but you follow it up saying people shouldn't work more than 40 hours a week. If you want success you HAVE TO BUST YOUR ASS. Stop asking for handouts. My wife and I hardly saw each other for two years. I worked 50+hrs a week M-F, she went to school during the week and worked weekend nights. Yeah it was tough, but we are BETTER OFF because of it. We didn't ***** and moan and wanted other people to feel sorry for us.
Now I do realize some people get dealt a better hand than others. It is not your fault nor anyones elses if you get delt a good or a bad hand, but it is your fault if you get delt a good hand (compared to most of the worlds people EVERYONE in the US is delt a great hand) and ruin it. Conversely if you are delt a bad hand and do nothing to improve your chances of winning it is your fault.
Ive watched friends who were the son's of millionaires end up on drugs and on the street. My best friend's family came to this country about 15 years ago. They had NOTHING, literally just one suitcase each and the promise of one room in a house of a relative for the four of them. His dad work literally 18-20hrs a day and his mom worked almost as much. With in ten years they were multi-millionaires and my buddy drives a Bently and starting to take over his dad's business. Despite being able to inherit millions, he still puts in well more than 40hrs a week. Its that kind of attitude that this country was built on. Wiggles, its your kind of attitude that is going to destroy it.
Regarding taxes, any tax, or costly .gov regulation is simply passed on to the consumer. Taxing the rich more is simply making the goods and services you use more expensive. Decreasing taxes and unnecessary regulatory control increases productivity, which increases employment, and decreases the over all cost to the consumer.
I find it funny you said that people that work hard don't always have success but you follow it up saying people shouldn't work more than 40 hours a week. If you want success you HAVE TO BUST YOUR ASS. Stop asking for handouts. My wife and I hardly saw each other for two years. I worked 50+hrs a week M-F, she went to school during the week and worked weekend nights. Yeah it was tough, but we are BETTER OFF because of it. We didn't ***** and moan and wanted other people to feel sorry for us.
Now I do realize some people get dealt a better hand than others. It is not your fault nor anyones elses if you get delt a good or a bad hand, but it is your fault if you get delt a good hand (compared to most of the worlds people EVERYONE in the US is delt a great hand) and ruin it. Conversely if you are delt a bad hand and do nothing to improve your chances of winning it is your fault.
Ive watched friends who were the son's of millionaires end up on drugs and on the street. My best friend's family came to this country about 15 years ago. They had NOTHING, literally just one suitcase each and the promise of one room in a house of a relative for the four of them. His dad work literally 18-20hrs a day and his mom worked almost as much. With in ten years they were multi-millionaires and my buddy drives a Bently and starting to take over his dad's business. Despite being able to inherit millions, he still puts in well more than 40hrs a week. Its that kind of attitude that this country was built on. Wiggles, its your kind of attitude that is going to destroy it.
Regarding taxes, any tax, or costly .gov regulation is simply passed on to the consumer. Taxing the rich more is simply making the goods and services you use more expensive. Decreasing taxes and unnecessary regulatory control increases productivity, which increases employment, and decreases the over all cost to the consumer.
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