Short body Green texas update, the second generation.

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izzy_here

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Thought it might be time for an update, some of you might remember this...
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?382173-Escondido-X-sb-Green-Texas.&highlight

And these, the offspring of that^ pair...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZuS9gjtA2U

This is the latest generation...

[video=youtube;WLg69Zia5mU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLg69Zia5mU[/video]
Many still have that tadpoley baby fry look to them, they should out grow this very soon.

The various types are amazing, there seem to be several that have the basic type I want, but there some that are just stunningly perfect examples. If you kept your eyes peeled during that vid you might have noticed one at :53. But very notably, one at 2:00, there are several more like him(?) but he(?) is perhaps one of the very best.

The amazing part is that so many are longer than either parent!?!? They are short bodied for sure, yet still much longer than mom and dad. Not sure if I want to cross these fry to each other, I feel it's time to out cross again.

Fairly certain I'm going to pair a female from this batch to a Paratheraps bifas...and or possibly a male to my syn X parrot females. I'd feel comfortable back crossing to the Texas strain again at that point.

Does anyone remember super texas? Not sure we even had them here in the states..that's sorta the look I'm going for.
 
Sorry about the crappy vid/lighting, they actually do have mad pearls coming in right now, you just can't see them! When I get time I'll try to make some better vids, or get some close up pics.
 
Choosing the final cut of grow outs is turning out to be more difficult than I'd anticipated. I'll get some pics and or vids up in the next few days.


p.s. this thread is not a For Sale thread...fry are not available at this time.
p.p.s. grow outs not held back for myself will be made available to all at a later date.
 
csaechao said:
fries are looking real awesome, izzy! can't wait til you get your project going.
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It's funny...once upon a time I thought this strain woul be "done" at the stage they're at now....and now I think they need more....structure..more presence. And more color! Color that isn't produced by the fader gene.

I have a few choices as far as breeders, one pure species Vieja and one hybrid Vieja. Both could be crossed to Texas, then back-crossed to Texas, then crossed to each other...might be a bit more back-crossing to it than that but you get the gist...
 
so what % are sb in this batch?
 
tiddlywinks said:
so what % are sb in this batch?
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They're 100% sb, some are longer than the parents but far from normal length. If you look at the second vid you can see the parents were very sb, so even the longest of the fry really isn't that long. None will grow past 6"-8" and thats leaving a lot of room for error, a more conservative estimate would be 5"-7".
 
izzy_here said:
Choosing the final cut of grow outs is turning out to be more difficult than I'd anticipated.
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Most of the next stage of grow outs have been chosen, around half I chose to keep are the longer fry. They seem to have a lot of potential as far as shape is concerned. I chose some of the shorter ones as well.

The mother and the parents of these fry will reach 4" for a female, 6" for a male. From past experience I can say the shortest fry I kept will probably reach 5" for a female, and 7" for a male. I was conscious of a more refined aesthetic when choosing my shorter fry this time around. A bit longer..more smooth and oblong rather than stubby and round.

I believe the longest of the fry might have the potential of getting as large as 6" to 8". Most of the very longest were among those chosen for more growing out.
 
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