opinions on my auto water changer design

[MyGiants]

Yes I'm serious, are you? I don't think anybody with a shred of common sense would do what you're suggesting, and that is to drain excess water with a small tube that relies on a siphon with a small valve adjusted to the rate of the incoming fresh water. The whole idea is absurd, and is borderline trollish.

What's absurd is your continued whining to try do prove my idea could not work. Any common sense would tell you it can work but you just keep coming up silly what ifs. Your last one is the best what if the siphon tube breaks LOL I suppose if you made it it would break.

 

[jcardona1]

What's absurd is your continued whining to try do prove my idea could not work. Any common sense would tell you it can work but you just keep coming up silly what ifs. Your last one is the best what if the siphon tube breaks LOL I suppose if you made it it would break.

What if the SIPHON breaks, not the damn tube. Do you know what it means when your siphon breaks? That means water stops flowing. Every time I swear. It's like talking to a door knob with you

Where did I say "tube"?

Ok genius, and what happens if that siphon breaks while you're away from home?

 

[MyGiants]

Yeah, as you can see in the link I posted a few pages back, this is how it works:

1. Float valve in sump connected to drain pump.
2. When water level rises, it triggers the float valve which triggers the pump to drain the water.
3. Water feed line has a normally-closed solenoid, which only lets the water pass through if it has power.
4. If power goes out, solenoid closes and no water passes through, so no risk of flood.
5. The solenoid is also connected to a safety switch.
6. If the water goes past the float valve and touches the safety switch, it kills the power to the solenoid, which shuts off the flow of water.

Seems like this all should work as long as the safety switch doesn't break

 

[MyGiants]

What if the SIPHON breaks, not the damn tube. Do you know what it means when your siphon breaks? That means water stops flowing. Every time I swear. It's like talking to a door knob with you

Where did I say "tube"?

LOL I was thinking, Why would the siphon water break? have you ever siphoned a tank with hose and it just stops for no reason. Never has happen to me ever. But there could be a first time I suppose

 

[jcardona1]

LOL I was thinking, Why would the siphon water break? have you ever siphoned a tank with hose and it just stops for no reason. Never has happen to me ever. But there could be a first time I suppose

Yeah it's happened, with those cheap external overflow boxes. It's not a matter of if the siphon will break, it's a matter of when, and a matter of whether or not you'll be home to catch it in time and avoid a flood!

 

[MyGiants]

Yeah it's happened, with those cheap external overflow boxes. It's not a matter of if the siphon will break, it's a matter of when, and a matter of whether or not you'll be home to catch it in time and avoid a flood!

What does an overflow box have to do with siphoning. I wouldn't setup a overflow box before the siphon, why? The only way for the siphon to stop if the water level on the other side levels with the tank which will never happen. Or your sewer drain backs up which would back up any drain setup with a pump as well. But just stop siphoning like you say could happen, never. But I believe it could happen to you cause your just special

 

[MyGiants]

So what next? here's one

What if the incoming water were to stop and the siphon keeps siphoning. Would it siphon out the whole tank?





Not if you drilled a small hole in the siphon tube a few inches below the water line. Once air got in it stop siphoning.

 

[jcardona1]

No I meant it's the same scenario, meaning the siphon could break just like it could break for those with non-drilled tanks using overflow boxes like this:

 

[jcardona1]

So what next? here's one

What if the incoming water were to stop and the siphon keeps siphoning. Would it siphon out the whole tank?

Not if you drilled a small hole in the siphon tube a few inches below the water line. Once air got in it stop siphoning.

That's what I meant about the siphon breaking. Let's say this happens, and then the water comes back on. Then what? Now your siphon has stopped and it won't start again on it's own. Now your sump is going to flood.

 

[MyGiants]

If you had that type of setup before the siphon tube then yes if the water level in the box somehow didn't keep up with the siphon and allowed air into the siphon it could stop the siphon. But I would not use a overflow box its not needed. Its not needed to take only surface water which an overflow box is used for. I would just place the outlet down in the tank with a large cone screen.