responsible for a store to sell blue ring?

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OOL51 said:
I believe anarekis' post about the english language was the fact he asked you a simple question and your answer had nothing to do with the question he had asked, i could be wrong but that is what it seems.

Now you claim that you are a paleogenticist so you should therefore know that when you make assumptions, or a hypothesis, that you should be supplying some sort of evidence that supports your hypothesis. You also made a claim that when someone wants to know biology that they go to you, as you are a paleogenticist, that is a pretty big call to make considering that paleogentics would seem to be a pretty specialised field in the discipline of gentics let alone the overall study of biology, and yes I would call applying genetics to paleontology a specialised field. Expecting us to take your word on the biology of a marine creature is akin to asking a Ornithologist about the biology of a rabbit sure they are going to know the basics but aren't the best to get the information from.
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You may forgive me. But i don´t get paid here to examine a study, so i will say what i know and thats it.
 
Well the reports that it was sold is false. its still there. $60
 
DariusAmurdarja said:
To say the truth i´m pretty sure i´m the only one here who does know...
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To say the truth there was evidence shown that supports the poison is produced by bacteria living in the salivary gland that has a symbioc relationship with the octopus rather than your "fact" that it gets the poison from it's food (which you have given absolutely no supporting evidence apart from statements such as "I'm a paleogentics" (which I don't understand how that gives you a major insight to what would be considered marine biology) and "I'm pretty sure I'm the only one here that does know". I actually believe that you are one of those academics that believes that they are always right to make out they are smarter than everyone else even after being shown to be wrong. It is ok to be wrong once in a while. Most of the facts you have stated seem to be conflicting with every other piece of infomation out there.

You say they get the poison from there food yet every other piece of infomation seems to state the poison is produced in the salivary gland by bacteria. Say basically you must think you are smarter than all those scientist that have performed the research that have produced aid infomation.

Also you have not been asked to participate in a study, you have just been asked to show where you have obtained your "facts" from

One such fact is refuted by this info found by a simple internet search

'The blue ringed octopus' venom, however, is not produced by the octopus itself, but by symbiotic bacteria inhabiting the octopus' salivary glands. Those bacteria are transferred from the mother to the young - even the eggs already contain sufficient amounts of venom to be harmful'

sorta puts the question to your theory that captive bred is going to be less venomous than a wild caught.

I think anarekist has hit the nail on the head and you just don't want to admit it as you think somehow if you are wrong on an internet forum you must be a lesser person
 
Wiggles92 said:
x2.

If you're up for it and know what you're doing (as in have had an octopus before), then I don't see why not. You can survive a bit provided that you get to the hospital ASAP and have someone assisting with your breathing for a long time (at least a few hours). Set up a bit protocol as if you're working with a venomous snake, and only do stuff with the aquarium when someone else is around, preferably in the same room.
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Very nice response I agree again and again :nilly:
 
Wiggles92 said:
Wow, that's pretty cheap. Are you thinking about getting it? :D
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yea i was shocked at the price. but nonononononononono. the only blue ring i want in this house is a saphire and diamond one on my finger :)
 
woofy said:
yea i was shocked at the price. but nonononononononono. the only blue ring i want in this house is a saphire and diamond one on my finger :)
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I've never heard of one selling for that price; that's less than half the typical prices that I've come across before (which is somewhat concerning). It's one thing if it's $150, but it's another if it's $60; most people get scared off by a fish or invertebrate that's over $100, so the higher price helps to prevent someone buying it on an impulse.

And, ya, that's probably a bit safer blue ring. :)
 
They accumulate the bacteria through their food. All other named animals, like puffer fish or cone snails lose their venomous potencial over several weeks or months in captivity. If the blue ringed octopus is different in that aspect, then i apology. But so far i see no informations indicating that.

So far you ask me, how i as paleogeneticist can be interested in the venom production? Some Maniraptora used the very same methods to create posion.
 
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