Please see post #47. I am directing those words to you too...... darn I posted again. This time, it's for real. 
How many polys in a 75 gallon?
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I see where you are coming from.
Personally I am getting the species names and sizes off the internet as I only know these creatures by their commons names so when you all say Palmas polli im like what!!??
I was honestly speaking in stocking terms for keeping the ornate. You could keep one but IMO I wouldn't. A giant fish like that would stock a tank the size of 75 gallons.
I like to give my fish room. I personally like bright colored active fish.
If I wanted to look up to and learn from people I'd do it from those who don't currently have problems with females beating the **** out the males, fin nipping, fin ripping, rampages, advocate making fish aggressive, advocate overstocking, and turn a blind eye when people have psychotic fish and don't stop and ask why.
I am seeing allot of opinions posted here that seem to be from speculation, extrapolation from other fish, research from the internet, but not much from actual experiance. For example stating the potential 3' size of some bichirs, really anyone with much time keeping polypterus knows that is not the case with captive fish are really only a handfull of certain types in the wild.(PBB, Ansorgii, Congicus). Now I am not advocating the cramming of fish like sardines into your tank, but really the issue is with health stocking levels. Sub 12" upper jaws in a 75, easily 10 to 12 provided good filtration and water changes. Now would they be happy? How do you assess that? Are they happier in the wild with the risk of predation? Or captive in our tanks? Realistically any tank we provide is too small compared to their native habitat.
My advice to the OP. Go through the forum and lounge and look at others tanks, see different examples from the Heavily planted beaut of James F, to the large open tank of Hao and everything inbetween.
There are many examples of keepers with what some on this thread would considered overstocked tanks that has outstanding health fish with no aggression in the tank.
Most of all get a variety of opinions, do not look at one person as gospel. Research and see what actually works.
Good luck
My advice to the OP. Go through the forum and lounge and look at others tanks, see different examples from the Heavily planted beaut of James F, to the large open tank of Hao and everything inbetween.
There are many examples of keepers with what some on this thread would considered overstocked tanks that has outstanding health fish with no aggression in the tank.
Most of all get a variety of opinions, do not look at one person as gospel. Research and see what actually works.
Good luck
Wow I have this problem,of my male endli getting beat up by my female endli,So my advice is worthless?
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Excellent post; that's exactly how I feel about the various stocking levels that I see on here.
IMO, anyone who tries to use the "in the wild" argument is completely overlooking the vast differences between an aquarium & the wild considering that in the wild these fishes have way more room to swim around than in our small aquariums; simply adding a single fish to an aquarium that size already overstocks it by the wild standards for swimming room.
Keep all the fish you want! Make sure your filter can handle the bio load and do water changes! They'll eventually stop growing if they have no more growing space. People overstock fish tanks all the time, I don't see why you can't. Beware! Most people on MFK are tank police 
Keep all the fish you want! Make sure your filter can handle the bio load and do water changes! They'll eventually stop growing if they have no more growing space. People overstock fish tanks all the time, I don't see why you can't. Beware! Most people on MFK are tank police
That's certainly not true. The fish will keep growing and will end up becoming stunted & deformed which leads to a very short & miserable life.
Besides, that argument is the same garbage that some stores will use to get people to purchase fishes that will certainly outgrow the space that is provided for them. Sure, the fish *might* stop "growing," but it certainly isn't going to live for very long in too small of an aquarium due to a variety of factors.
