TO ADD AIR OR NOT?

[F1 VET]

I'm not talking about bettas, I'm saying if a fish is sitting in still water in a tank it will die, like a power outage, that's what I meant! There's people on here that had many fish wiped out with a 1 hour power loss, depending on stock and bio load it can very but with no circulation or oxygen I think 6 hours is a good estimate. Try turning ur whole tank off, see how long ur fish live. I've read enough dead fish threads from loss of power to have battery backup. Or Atleast have a spare battery powered bubbler.





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[F1 VET]

X2. I would add it. Can't hurt only can help so why not add it


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I lost a whole tank full of fish when my canister filter quit. If i had air stones in the tank(i do now) I would have woken up to live fish instead of tank of floaring ones
. Air stones is a GRRRREAR idea.

I actually agree with f1vet here to an extent. The above example is a very poor one as fish with labyrinth organs are much hardier than a some more active fish. Why not pick a fish that can't breathe air from the surface to argue this point. Put a school of giant danios or silver dollars in a warm tank with no oxygenation and they will be dead before you know it. There are too many other factors to debate at this point but If you still disagree, why not just turn off your filter for 6 hours, set your heaters to 80 degrees and see what happens. What is the worse that could happen right?(don't try this unless you really want to risk the lives of your fish...it is a horrible idea)

The shipping example is a different case because when the bag is moved around the surface is broken which allows for oxygen exchange. If the bag some how stayed perfectly still the whole trip(which is not possible) then the fish probably wouldn't be in good shape.

I've personally had it happen to me with a heavily stocked african cichlid tank...but every case is different and I'm sure some fish would be fine. Once the first one dies then the water goes bad incredibly fast though and even the toughest fish can't survive forever. Except synodontis catfish...those are pretty much impossible to kill if you tried.

Thanks for those that actually see my point, I'm not talking about a filter shutting off and having 6 hours till the fish dies (unless all u have for current and o2 is that one filter) I'm talking about no flow, current, bubbles or gph, when they ship they add oxygen which, for that fish will get it there, but for a tank of fish that don't breath atmospheric air they will die quickly, especially if temps are higher. Doesn't take a genious to figure that out. A battery powered bubbler can be the difference betweenife and death during a power outage.


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[Longshot]

I'm with F1. I have never had a magnetic drive filter suddenly die. Usually everything will turn off from a power outage or an electrical short flipping a breaker. When water is moving, the dissolved O2 is pretty much evenly distributed throughout the water column, it's a chemical property of water. When water stops moving, O2 takes exponentially longer to diffuse down to the bottom.

In many tanks I see on here, F1's 6 hours are probably a bit optimistic.

 

[Paulbearer]

Whoa there. Easy girl. That was an example of the 1-6 hour fish is dead line that f1vet tried to sell.


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I'm not a girl by the way and I understand the post is in concern with a tank. However, my post was in regard to the betta comment which is not true.

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[F1 VET]

longshot I guess I see the glass half full...lol but if ur way overstocked, Overfed and already med-poor water quality I don't think it will sustain to long. You definitely make some good points, appreciate the post Bro.





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[Longshot]

longshot I guess I see the glass half full...lol but if ur way overstocked, Overfed and already med-poor water quality I don't think it will sustain to long. You definitely make some good points, appreciate the post Bro.





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No problem.

I've been setting up ponds and aquariums for years and will have a piece of paper that says I've got a degree in aquatic biology in December. I'd sure hope I know something about this stuff! lol

 

[Countryboy]

Thanks for those that actually see my point, I'm not talking about a filter shutting off and having 6 hours till the fish dies (unless all u have for current and o2 is that one filter) I'm talking about no flow, current, bubbles or gph, when they ship they add oxygen which, for that fish will get it there, but for a tank of fish that don't breath atmospheric air they will die quickly, especially if temps are higher. Doesn't take a genious to figure that out. A battery powered bubbler can be the difference betweenife and death during a power outage.
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But that is exactly what you stated. "Fish will die in 1-6 hours". Betta are fish after all. As far as being a troll and calling ppl names I think that is exactly what you are doing. I after all was not the one to pm after a little disagreement. You were.

 

[Longshot]

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But that is exactly what you stated. "Fish will die in 1-6 hours". Betta are fish after all. As far as being a troll and calling ppl names I think that is exactly what you are doing. I after all was not the one to pm after a little disagreement. You were.

Can all fish utilize atmospheric air like a betta?

 

[hawkerw]

Thanks for all the replies everyone. I have great suface movement as I use three filters I just wondered if something like a bubble wand would add even more oxygen to the water? And that brings up another question besides adding air to the tank do any of you think other than oxygen that it makes any diferance to the water conditions even if it's already very well filtered?

 

[Missionfan]

Oxygen absorbs into the water at the surface and not via bubbles in the water. The bubbles, while pretty, are in the water such a short time that very little, if any, oxygen is absorbed. Yes, fish do like to play in them, but it is not doing a lot for your tanks oxygen intake except when the bubbles reach the surface and ripple the water - that is where the oxygen absorbsion occurs...


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