Taking the plunge...again :)

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(1) All species of fish listed in Subsections (2) through (30) are classified as prohibited for collection, importation and possession,
(22)Piranha, (Serrasalmus, All species) family Characidae

(27) Stingray (All freshwater species) family Dasyatidae

Odd thing is that this family is the mostly salt water variety and not our freshwater rays. But they say (ALL FRESHWATER RAYS) ?? Odd but Im going to go by the family name. River stingrays are Neotropical freshwater fishes of the Potamotrygonidae family,

So question since I dont know pirahna all that well is this family they list all of them or just one type of them??
 
sounds like an epic setup in the making.

i vote to get caribas or pirayas or both.

either ways, you can slowly add caribas and pirayas, and they will slowly eat away the RBP if you wanted to switch up later on.

looking fwd to pics.
 
Definitely can't wait. Add more flow than needed to really have running! Oh man that's going to be bad tank. You guys think an upgrade is necessary when they hit adults? Would 1/20-25gal tank even apply to such a monster tank?
 
Definitely can't wait. Add more flow than needed to really have running! Oh man that's going to be bad tank. You guys think an upgrade is necessary when they hit adults? Would 1/20-25gal tank even apply to such a monster tank?

Yes, bio load. Not to mention anything less (gallons) could be serious aggression, I could see a shoal of 50 taking out Piranha after Piranha.


Go S. Vettel #1 rb8
 
I think youre guys are a little too hung up on fish per gallon. Thats just a guideline for newer hobbyists. If an experienced hobbyist has the capability to do an epic water change schedule, than over stocked tanks become a very attainable reality. Not just for piranha, but any fish really. As far as aggression, Ive always had lower death rates in larger shoals. Not to mention you probably wouldnt notice if a few suddenly disappeared. You might get lucky and find a head with that many piranhas.
 
I think youre guys are a little too hung up on fish per gallon. Thats just a guideline for newer hobbyists. If an experienced hobbyist has the capability to do an epic water change schedule, than over stocked tanks become a very attainable reality. Not just for piranha, but any fish really. As far as aggression, Ive always had lower death rates in larger shoals. Not to mention you probably wouldnt notice if a few suddenly disappeared. You might get lucky and find a head with that many piranhas.

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I think youre guys are a little too hung up on fish per gallon. Thats just a guideline for newer hobbyists. If an experienced hobbyist has the capability to do an epic water change schedule, than over stocked tanks become a very attainable reality. Not just for piranha, but any fish really. As far as aggression, Ive always had lower death rates in larger shoals. Not to mention you probably wouldnt notice if a few suddenly disappeared. You might get lucky and find a head with that many piranhas.

Just cause you can keep up with the bio load doesn't mean its NOT overstocked, these fish grow large especially caribes and need SPACE to swim and get away from eachother when they want. I can see where your coming from with 8x 7" caribes in a 6'x18" 125gal but id rather understock a Piranha tank before I overstock it.....20gal per fish is a general guideline and should be the minimum, especially with caribes, which grow larger and are more aggressive...!

With a big footprint like 8'x2'x3' the gallons per fish don't matter as much because of the relative space and better use of LxW.

It's just like the "gallon per inch" rule, it doesn't exactly apply to every fish, every tank...






Go S. Vettel #1 rb8
 
I'm asking would it apply not that it is going to... 50 would be a good starting point but they will weed out the weak ones.
 
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