If you use a Python Water Change system, then I have a question for you..

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Redearsunfish said:
See this is my problem. De-cholr the entire tank? No way! That's just not right. And with the amount of water changes I need to do, that would get expensive really quick.
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Not if you buy Seachem Safe. It is the only thing I use. I do a lot of water changes. I mean a lot. A bottle of Safe, 1kilo(2.2lbs) for $30 treats...get this....200,000 gallons. Actually they just retested this product and it will treat 300,000 gallons at 4ppm chlorine which is A LOT of chlorine and most water systems don't treat at that high a dose. Mine on average last year was around 1.35ppm chlorine.

Spend the money and but the Safe and it will last you forever. One container lasts me about a year. $30 a year when doing weekly 85% water changes on my tank is a huge savings.

PS...it is the concentrated version of Seachem Prime and about 10 times as potent.
 
mr.bigglesworth said:
You dont have to be made of money. Google seachem safe. 1 purchase and you will have so much dechlor you wont know what to do with it. It would take me over 200 years to go through all of this dechlor.
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Correct....

Safe is the cheapest I have ever found. Lasts forever. It is so cheap that I use it to dehlorinate my huge containers of water before cleaning all my canister filters. I even double dose it with reckless abandon.
 
i wouldnt have as many tanks or enjoy them anywhere as much without the invention of the python.I do a 50 percent water change on all my tanks once week. I use tap water conditioner while fillinh for only the amount removed. my rays, discus, wild plecos payara you name it no issues. ever
 
Once you start using a Python or Aqueon you will never go back....ever.

It is quite simple. Buy one, I prefer the Aqueon, turn everything off except lights, vacuum substrate, take a glass of water from your tank and put it next to faucet, open the valve at the bottom of the water changer on the faucet, match temp with your hot/cold faucet handles to the glass of tank water, spread your dechlorinator out evenly in your tank, switch the valve at your faucet so it directs water to your tank....done.

It is beyond easy. Treat your entire tank. Hell....I even triple dose all my tanks. I dose the full amount before the water goes in and then two times that amount after I turn all my filters back on. With a product like Seachem safe don't dose more than 5 times or it will burn the fish and can cause death. The slime coat will start to peel off as well as the protective coating on their eyes will burn up and turn white.
 
I don't bother with python. For people who have fx5 or eheim 2260/2, all you need to do is hook up a tube to the back flush port and let the water out that way, mine does to the yard directly...I then use a garden hose to fill it up.

I never vacuum my sand because I aim a water jet toward the sand and there are no large accumulation of crap...


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I remember reading my instruction sheet for the Python and there was actually some mention of the incoming water being dechlorinated due to the high rate of aeration or something like that.I never trusted that though and I have always used Tapwater Conditioner per the instructions on the label.
 
I think when I go to a python, which will happen eventually when carrying the buckets becomes super difficult, i will simply employ a bucket at the base of the aquarium for re-fill, thereby eliminating the need to carry a bucket from the sink. That way I can mix my dechlor like i do now. So it will be 100 per cent python for water removal, and a combo of bucket and python for replacement.

By the way, the water coming out of my tap could bleach your shorts sometimes. I add decholr, and poof, the smell of bleach is gone.
 
Redearsunfish said:
By the way, the water coming out of my tap could bleach your shorts sometimes. I add decholr, and poof, the smell of bleach is gone.
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It sounds incredible for you to have that much chlorine in your tap water...I don't recall ever being able to smell the stuff in our water and I've practically grown up drinking it.
 
Redearsunfish said:
I think when I go to a python, which will happen eventually when carrying the buckets becomes super difficult, i will simply employ a bucket at the base of the aquarium for re-fill, thereby eliminating the need to carry a bucket from the sink. That way I can mix my dechlor like i do now. So it will be 100 per cent python for water removal, and a combo of bucket and python for replacement.

By the way, the water coming out of my tap could bleach your shorts sometimes. I add decholr, and poof, the smell of bleach is gone.
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If its is indeed that "wonderful" of water i would def go the way your thinking and go from there.. you can always decide to do straight refills as you become more confident in useing it ect.. or be happy with your results and not bust your back carrying.

ecoli's way also works awesome w/ canisters but iir you use almost 100% or 100% HOBs.

reguardless there are other ways then lugging 5 gallon pails when doing water changes, particularly large volume. or simple multiple tanks. But in the end 5 gallon buckets do work if it has to get done. think our collection of buckets is up to 8 now.. lol.
 
Prepare for massive increases in your water bill. For a fast syphon you need to keep your sink running the whole time you're draining, and to do a 50% water change just on a 75 gallon, you basically just used a showers worth of water. Add multiple monster tanks and it will add up. Best way for sure is to drain the tank another way and fill it back up with python. You can simply put a 10$ sump pump from home depot in there and aim the garden hose out the window


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