Raw or cooked??????

[Silent Bob]

So what is in the powder mix that you add then ? I just dont get why 100% prawn would be better then a variety of food, just curious

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It is a supplement. It is adding vitamins back into their meals. I personally never said 100% prawn as you guys like to call it is better then a variety. If you read my other posts you will understand why I feed mainly shrimp.

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[Silent Bob]

so if cooke3d food has nothing in it why do we bother eatting anything as i must only eat about 80% cooked food myself

my dog only eats pellets and hes doing great as dry dog food is the dog form of pellets

T1 I think it is time to start acting like the adult you are. These threads are about contributing not arguing which is clearly what you would like to do with a comment like that. If you truely were contributing you would be keeping the thread on topic about raw or cooked and not asking questions about human consumption or canine consumption of food. My only response to your questions is...REPORTED. Trolling is not allowed.

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[T1KARMANN]

T1 I think it is time to start acting like the adult you are. These threads are about contributing not arguing which is clearly what you would like to do with a comment like that. If you truely were contributing you would be keeping the thread on topic about raw or cooked and not asking questions about human consumption or canine consumption of food. My only response to your questions is...REPORTED. Trolling is not allowed.

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see the word in the first part in your user name use it

if cooked shrimp or other sea foods is not worth eatting why do we not go back to eatting raw meat

oh sorry you are right all the people who feed cooked food are wrong

if you are talking about what rays would eat in the wild they wouldnt even get shrimp or prawn let alone eat a shrimp that had been dead for a few days and then frozen

we cook our food for a reason to kill bacteria

you have reported a post that gives examples of cooked and uncooked foods when fed to different animals bet the mods will love that one

 

[Silent Bob]

see the word in the first part in your user name use it

if cooked shrimp or other sea foods is not worth eatting why do we not go back to eatting raw meat

oh sorry you are right all the people who feed cooked food are wrong

if you are talking about what rays would eat in the wild they wouldnt even get shrimp or prawn let alone eat a shrimp that had been dead for a few days and then frozen

we cook our food for a reason to kill bacteria

you have reported a post that gives examples of cooked and uncooked foods when fed to different animals bet the mods will love that one

For starters reported for your first statement in this post.

For your second sentence again you are talking about human consumption. Rays are different like other fish we keep. As another post in this thread by a contributing member we humans are capable of processing cooked food. Why do you think we have to eat balanced diets? Simple...not everything our bodies need is in one or two meals we eat. And we do actually eat a lot of raw foods.

Third sentence again is you wanting to start an argument. Never did I say everyone that uses cooked shrimp is wrong and that raw shrimp is right. I simply explained why I feed raw instead of cooked.

Fourth sentence you typed yes there are freshwater shrimp that they can eat. They don't simply just eat fish all day everyday.

Fifth sentence you typed lets go back to your other post asking why we bother to cook our food. You just answered it yourself. Again reported for trolling wanting to start arguments instead of contributing.

What I have reported is a post that has absolutely nothing to do with the topic raw or cooked in the stingray sub forum. Plain and simply put fish process food differently then humans or dogs. But if you would like to keep going off topic by all means let go. We eat how many different types of fruits and vegetables raw. I don't know how you eat that stuff but myself I don't usually cook them.

Also one of the most important reasons why I do not feed cooked shrimp to my fish is because around here it contains tripolyphosphate. Which is not even healthy for humans in large amounts. Our fish are a lot smaller then we are and with the amount of food they eat this is seriously not good for their health.

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[doyboy]

Why do u not bother with pellets? Just curious...
Why not feed a variety of foods?

I said that I don't bother with pellets unless in a gelatin based home made food. My rays don't like pellets just on their own. I am also not going to do what most people do and starve my fish till they take something that I want them to eat. When acquiring a new ray I will go thru a bunch of different foods till I find what it wants to eat...trust me you don't want to see my fridge in the garage. 100% of the time that has been raw shrimp or a different kind of shrimp.



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You say here that 100 % of the time your feeding shrimp of sum sort, basically the powder your adding is probably the same vitamins my fish are receiving from the pellets in the varied diet that my fish receive. I don't think either cooked or uncooked prawn is wrong. A good fish keeper would soon no if his fish are not getting the right food especially ray keepers. I doubt very much that rays in the wild get as much food as we all feed our rays.
I no ray keepers and breeders that don't feed anything but pellets but I would never say its wrong becoz sum have kept and breed them for many years.

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[BuffaloPolypteridae]

so if cooke3d food has nothing in it why do we bother eatting anything as i must only eat about 80% cooked food myself

my dog only eats pellets and hes doing great as dry dog food is the dog form of pellets

Hahaha because our bodies have adapted to it over thousands of years. Evolution. And dogs are different then fish, again they have adapted to what we give them. Fish have in no way adapted to cooked food.

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[BuffaloPolypteridae]

I Feed only hikari pellets... massivore.. cichlid gold and sturgeon pelllet.
I never personally cook my prawns or muscle.. I buy it frozen and it's already cooked.
In uk .. raw king prawn I csn get for about £5 for a half kg... (roughly 1 lb).. so its a bit more pricy.. not much though.
For me its not price thats stops me... I find my fish wjen fed raw.prawn they get hooked and start to snub other types of food..
Pellets ...should provide all the vitamins and minerals required.. and its so easy to feed.
But when I did fed raw.. the fish would go mental for it.. more than any type of other food fed.

Which pellet do u th I nk provides the most vitamins and minerals?

I would literally compare whatever is available, as far as I know rays don't need any sort of vegetation in their diet so cichlid pellets may not be a good idea (they have wheat or some kind of veggie usually). I would stick with the massivore and sturgeon pellet (sounds to me like those are best suited for the rays diet)

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[dogofwar]

Cooking shrimp negatively impacts their nutritional value for fish. There was an awesome thread about this in the past.

The other issue to think about when feeding your fish shrimp is where it's sourced.

Asian-farmed shrimp (and to a lesser extent Central American-farmed shrimp) are farmed in raw sewage, dosed with antibiotics that are illegal in the use and otherwise have all sorts of warnings for consumption by humans.

US-farmed is much better, although likely a little more expensive.

Matt

 

[Silent Bob]

You say here that 100 % of the time your feeding shrimp of sum sort, basically the powder your adding is probably the same vitamins my fish are receiving from the pellets in the varied diet that my fish receive. I don't think either cooked or uncooked prawn is wrong. A good fish keeper would soon no if his fish are not getting the right food especially ray keepers. I doubt very much that rays in the wild get as much food as we all feed our rays.
I no ray keepers and breeders that don't feed anything but pellets but I would never say its wrong becoz sum have kept and breed them for many years.

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Your not understanding what I am saying. I never said that 100% of the time I am feeding shrimp. I said 100% of the time it is the one food of many that they will go for. Maybe you missed the post on where I talked about cooked shrimp in my area containing tripolyphosphate? Therefore in my area feeding cooked shrimp to my rays or other fish would not be a good idea.

Have you ever sat back and thought that maybe one of the reason pellets are fed by people with large amounts of fish is because it takes much less time to stick your hand in a bag then it does to actually prepare a meal??? But again topic at hand is raw or cooked...not pellets. I have given my reasons why I feed raw over cooked and only a few of you guys keep coming back with pellet info? Does pellet info have anything to do with the OP asking about raw or cooked?



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[doyboy]

Yeah no sorry when I said 100% shrimp I didn't mean thats all u was feeding, wot I meant was why no mussle or whitebate that sort of thing ? We got our wires crossed lol

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