Endo ........... I'm not standing behind anything, besides a healthy dose of common sense. How does that become a waste to the OP, or anyone else for that matter?
Some people are feeding YFS over Hikari due to cost (and what they feel is a better ingredient listing) I'm simply suggesting what Jeff did, and offering a far less costly alternative than YFS.
It was Forrest that then asked;
So, do you want to hear the truth - or salesman propaganda where (cough-cough) no preservatives are used, no coloring agents are used - including their *green* colored food that is based on fish meal, potato starch and squid meal - none of which are green, and where everything is 100% natural? Is this what some refer to bashing? Wow, grow some skin kids. I have yet to see any threads such as this get shut down due to factual information being shared. And I've been involved in most of them over the years.
If price is an issue, which apparently it is, then you should be thanking me (and Jeff), not getting your panties in a knot because I'm being a bit of a wise ass, Endo. I thought the "this message has been approved as being 100% natural" was funny, AND I was attempting to make a point - that being anyone can say anything about their product line - that doesn't always mean that it's true. The word "natural" is subjective, and open for interpretation as there currently is no official AAFCO definition. Some state officials would probably take a closer look at the term "natural" if the food entering their state was destined for dogs and/or cats - ornamental pet fish not so likely. BTW - not all fish food companies list their Ash content as it is not required by AAFCO to be listed on fish food labels.
And anyone that has ever read anything that I have posted on the subject of fish nutrition knows that I have never supported large amounts of terrestrial based plant matter in fish food - especially if that food is destined for a fish that is classified as being carnivorous. So in that respect it doesn't matter if that carbohydrate or starch is derived from wheat, corn, oats, soybean, yeast or whatever, makes no difference to me. The more terrestrial based plant matter (and carbs in general) I see listed on a fish food label the less likely that I would personally feed it to my fish.
Having said that, it seems to me that if one is ok with feeding wheat, oats, and yeast to their carnivorous fish, then I would assume that feeding wheat, potato, and corn wouldn't be a major issue either, or am I missing something? And quite frankly unless you are privy to the actual inclusion rates of both formulas, the aquaculture feed could possibly have less starch in it than the YFS sticks. Don't know, don't really care - I was simply referring to a carnivorous formula that costs a fraction of YFS - no different than the rest of you offering your 2 cents on what you feel is a more cost effective food compared to Hikari.
I don't have a gun to anyones head, feel free to feed what you want.
