Lexus Project of NY, forcing courts Not To euthanize mauler & killer dogs.

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Typical Lee fashion, point every other direction instead of looking in the mirror.

My 2 cent. Theres too many dogs out there without a home for us to continue housing those with a violent history

This is how I feel too. I don't get what this group is trying to achieve, BUT if they want to take full responsibility which better mean financial, that would be ok too. I mean nobody will be any better off killing the dog.This hearing crap has to stop though. The courts are already backed up with human issues.
 
I dont think what he said was off topic at all ..this is clearly about the LEXUS PROJECT. and what they do...their history is relevant...btw ...I do AGREE that if the dog is on your property and poses a threat...START SHOOTING...and don't feel bad

I think what was said that he was directing the attention away from the problem with bringing up 14yo, 18yo gang banger and bad kids. a whole bunch of "ifs" and "buts". the article is talking about a 1 year old getting mauled.

Regarding my problem the problem is do I have to stand guard over my family day and night so they can play on the swing set in my back yard. I guess I will have to quit my job and go on welfare to do so all because someone needs a tough guy dog.

Sorry but I get really pissed about this subject people refuse to look at the facts. My cousin who is very intelligent (Phd) takes in rescue pitts to foster and has three small children all because she has a big heart. One of those dogs is going to flip the switch on her kids and everyone will scream bad owner.

Back to the Lexus subject it is another organization that cares more about dogs than people. they tie up tax payers money to fight in court over a dog that is a killer. this group sickens me.
 
I think what was said that he was directing the attention away from the problem with bringing up 14yo, 18yo gang banger and bad kids. a whole bunch of "ifs" and "buts". the article is talking about a 1 year old getting mauled.

Regarding my problem the problem is do I have to stand guard over my family day and night so they can play on the swing set in my back yard. I guess I will have to quit my job and go on welfare to do so all because someone needs a tough guy dog.

Sorry but I get really pissed about this subject people refuse to look at the facts. My cousin who is very intelligent (Phd) takes in rescue pitts to foster and has three small children all because she has a big heart. One of those dogs is going to flip the switch on her kids and everyone will scream bad owner.

Back to the Lexus subject it is another organization that cares more about dogs than people. they tie up tax payers money to fight in court over a dog that is a killer. this group sickens me.

Hardly. Organizations like this are started and funded by outraged owners when their dog gets in trouble for other people stupidity. Dog mauls a 1 yo should be put down, might want to actually read my post. The others are also ALL cases in the news not made up. It's exactly those cases that are causing the problem you are so stridently crying about. So it is solidly on topic. Should viscous dogs be put down? Yes. Ok great now define viscous.

As far as self defense dogs on your property posing a threat go ahead. Self defense is a civil right no matter how much your governor pisses on it.

Plenty pisses me off too like religious charities getting state and federal money for adoptions.
 
Hardly. Organizations like this are started and funded by outraged owners when their dog gets in trouble for other people stupidity. Dog mauls a 1 yo should be put down, might want to actually read my post. The others are also ALL cases in the news not made up. It's exactly those cases that are causing the problem you are so stridently crying about. So it is solidly on topic. Should viscous dogs be put down? Yes. Ok great now define viscous.

As far as self defense dogs on your property posing a threat go ahead. Self defense is a civil right no matter how much your governor pisses on it.

Plenty pisses me off too like religious charities getting state and federal money for adoptions.

There you go redirecting the topic - how horrible religious people getting money to help with adoptions IE CHILDREN WITH NO PARENTS, FAMILIES, HOMES! I agree it would be better to spend money on dogs who have mauled kids better yet lets feed the orphans to the dogs it will save on dog food. Most of the "religious" people I know that adopted kids didn't get this money you claim they paid 25k per child of their own money so that at least 1 child would have a better life. Please tell me where I can get this money. I would like to adopt and make a child's life better... oh that's right no such funding exists.

I did read it and the cases you mentioned are not the ones causing the problem. if you read through all the fatal attacks from 2013 as I did 78% are caused by pits 6% by mastif and 6% german shepherd 3% ALL OTHER BREEDS. I don't know the exact number but most where small children and elderly. NONE where gang banging teenagers. Read the facts here I will make it easy here are the links

http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-fatalities-2013.php
http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-fatalities-2012.php
http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-fatalities-2011.php


In the 9-year period from 2005 to 2013, pit bulls killed 176 Americans and accounted for 62% of the total recorded deaths (283). Combined, pit bulls and rottweilers accounted for 74% of these deaths.
 
As far as self defense dogs on your property posing a threat go ahead. Self defense is a civil right no matter how much your governor pisses on it.

Plenty pisses me off too like religious charities getting state and federal money for adoptions.

Oh and this bit of wisdom - living in the grand ol state of NY if I take things in my own hands I go to jail. I have to wait until the dog mauls my child before I can do anything.
 
There you go redirecting the topic - how horrible religious people getting money to help with adoptions IE CHILDREN WITH NO PARENTS, FAMILIES, HOMES! I agree it would be better to spend money on dogs who have mauled kids better yet lets feed the orphans to the dogs it will save on dog food. Most of the people I know that adopted kids didnt get this money you claim they paid 25k per child of there own money so that at least 1 child would have a better life.

I did read it and the cases you mentioned are not the ones causing the problem. if you read through all the fatal attacks from 2013 as I did 78% are caused by pits 6% by mastif and 6% german shepherd 3% ALL OTHER BREEDS. I don't know the exact number but most where small children and elderly. NONE where gang banging teenagers. Read the facts here I will make it easy here are the links

http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-fatalities-2013.php
http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-fatalities-2012.php
http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-fatalities-2011.php

No better to spend money on state run programs than giving it to a tax exempt megcorp. And you might really really work on your reading comprehension. I'm going to try this VERY VERY slowly. I'm not defending viscous dogs not once, I'm not saying don't defend your family or wait for the dog to attack. In your yard fair game. So what is your solution? Wipe out the breed. Good dogs bad dogs don't care looks like a pitt done? Oh dog looked at me funny put it down?
 
From dog bite dot org??? They have been discredited by the American Veterinary Association and the CDC every time. You quote from them and have the audacity of accusing me of having an agenda? Impressive.
 
Oh and this bit of wisdom - living in the grand ol state of NY if I take things in my own hands I go to jail. I have to wait until the dog mauls my child before I can do anything.

Actually no. Nice try but no. The second that the dog crosses into your yard it constitutes imminent threat. You want to shot the dog on it's owner property. Not the same.
 
No better to spend money on state run programs than giving it to a tax exempt megcorp. And you might really really work on your reading comprehension. I'm going to try this VERY VERY slowly. I'm not defending viscous dogs not once, I'm not saying don't defend your family or wait for the dog to attack. In your yard fair game. So what is your solution? Wipe out the breed. Good dogs bad dogs don't care looks like a pitt done? Oh dog looked at me funny put it down?

Your original quote sounds like you are defending viscous dogs because it is "gang bangers" causing these attacks. If I am wrong I am sorry but that is they way it reads.

I unfortunately have no solution. I would not be sad if all pitts are gone but that is not feasible. I do think regulation need to be put in place for people that have these dogs. I should not have to feel unsafe for my children because my neighbor doesn't keep a dog on a lead. A dog that has showing aggression. Just like I have to register my fire arm. I think owners of certain breeds have to register there dogs. Any harm comes from those dogs they loose the right to own dogs just like I would loose the right to own my firearms.
 
Actually no. Nice try but no. The second that the dog crosses into your yard it constitutes imminent threat. You want to shot the dog on it's owner property. Not the same.

exactly I have to wait for the dog to come on my property and harm my child. Living in NY I am not allowed to carry so I would have to go in get my revolver and come out all before the dog gets to my family. That means I ahve to be home so what happen the 5 days a week I am at work.

but I am not going to waste anymore time on this topic. nothing ever gets solved and I just get heated and pissed off. Time to go look at some fish.
 
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