Male Texas jag cross spawns with female jag
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Well its possible cause a jag x convict male is fertile and a texas x covict male is fertile even though the common denominator is the convict I wouldn't say he would be infertile for sure surely if they both line up enough genes for fertility results when crossed with the same species they can do the same for eachother
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Why cross these? These are the kind of hybrids people get angry about. 1/2 jag + full jag you are going to get a whole lot with the jag form so why not just breed two jags? I hope you are wiping out this whole spawn.
No these are the types of hybrids people look for, for instance fortune fish , red texas, devil parrots all he's doing here is eveything every other breeder around the world is doing by breeding for a good looking fish that is fertile I dont see why your so negative about his prodject so what if ignorant people don't like it are they also against breeding methods for dogs cats cattle horses pigs birds snakes and other pets or live stock cause its the exact same thing besides he would have to do this at least 1 to 3 more times with one fry from each batch with the less pearls to breed out pearling to get one that looks exactly like a jag
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So you think this is some kind of worthwhile hybrid project even with the majority of the genetic input being jag cichlid? What kind of refinement do you think the cross back to jag will bring? Randumb breeding and breeding without an end goal in mind is a serious detriment in the name of hybrid breeding.
I personally don't think it's a good looking fish. Mixing tall bodied texas with the long thin bodied jag seems pointless to me. What do you want as an end result? An average mutt with jag markings and pearls? I don't get it.
I personally don't think it's a good looking fish. Mixing tall bodied texas with the long thin bodied jag seems pointless to me. What do you want as an end result? An average mutt with jag markings and pearls? I don't get it.
Everything you ask about is the very reason flowerhorns exist for instance a fortune fish take a synspilum cross to a red devil get a parrot take the parrot cross it to a texas get a unfaded red texas female take that and cross it to a male synspilum but you dont get this simply using a different percentage of species in a hybrid to make something that looks completely different from a 50/50 cross or its parent species
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You just made my point for me with all those examples you posted. If you want to make this you breed that X that there's a goal in mind with those breedings. Breeding for ugly gray fish with long faces and nothing special is pointless when the pure species used are better fish in every way.
People crossed fish to make flowerhorns because they wanted to create colorful fish with big nuchal humps. Then they wanted pearls, wrap fins, shortbodies, so they added blood and did what they could to refine and fix traits. It's totally different. Think it through.
People crossed fish to make flowerhorns because they wanted to create colorful fish with big nuchal humps. Then they wanted pearls, wrap fins, shortbodies, so they added blood and did what they could to refine and fix traits. It's totally different. Think it through.
Look at the male fish pictured. Sure it's got kind of carpintis pearls and almost texas body shape but it also has the ugly long jag curved snout. There is no improvement. Most people would just want a pure carpintis. It's a neat experiment to see what comes out but comparing this to flowerhorn breeding is apples to oranges.
I love the jag body shape, but the color and patterns of jags hybrids are not very nice. A solid color jag(red, yellow...) will be awesome.
Thanks for the views.... I can see there's differences of opinion here and I respect everybody's right to their own opinion...... I know there's fish at one end of the spectrum that almost everybody would agree are attractive and fish at the other end that most people would say are not... and then there's those in between which after that it's subjective and a matter of personal taste.... I've been in the hobby over 20 years and never bred hybrids until now.. There were no hybrids when I first got into the hobby and since they came to beI've heard this argument over and over again which could really be applied to all hybrids to a degree beautiful or not .... This spawn and a previous spawn over a year ago which produced my Texas jag mix are just situations that occurred unexpectedly that I decided to let play out.. I've always dealt with non hybrid species not really even in the hybrids that much .. Really just my curiosity no more no less... I posed the question because I thought I saw posted at one time that Texas jag mixes the male was infertile..however..what is the real difference between this and what already has been done? I take that Texas jag mix put it with a red female Midas and... bang a new type of flower horn is born and can be further refined like all the rest ... Not that I really plan to do that...
..... I just want to see what this might look like in blue.....
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