Why haven't Coldwater species have been popularized yet?

[predatorkeeper87]

This, so much this. I love the breeding behavior of cichlids but I refuse to keep them in a tank with anything but other cichlids because they're jagoffs, and a tank without natives or catfish is a waste of a tank to me.

cichlids just aren't my jam, but to some people that's why they are in the hobby, which is awesome if that's what keeps people interested. I love African fish just due to the diversity of life that comes from there, so my tanks only consist of bichirs, butterfly fish, bushfish, and a splash of the Indonesia waters with my clown loaches haha, then of course my native tanks. Different strokes for different folks and all.

 

[predatorkeeper87]

Woah, woah, woah, you have a bullhead too bro, don't go insulting them, lol. My yellow bullhead is by far my favorite fish out of all 80ish of them.

I want so desperately to say the same about mine haha but my pumpkinseed definitely gets that award for me haha.

 

[predatorkeeper87]

Dude, lower allegheny river close to pittsburgh a FULL of them. People catch tons of them in shiners and cutbait where my local creek flows into the river. Most are already to large to introduce to a tank, though.

No way!!!!! I'm going down there and c hecking it out in spring time! Maybe find a few small ones!

 

[krichardson]

Dude, lower allegheny river close to pittsburgh a FULL of them. People catch tons of them in shiners and cutbait where my local creek flows into the river. Most are already to large to introduce to a tank, though.

That would be cool enough for me just to be able to see but I doubt very many if any are out this way in south eastern PA.

 

[jaws7777]

Oh I don't care what people keep haha, you want a tank full of angry ass little African cichlids cause they're bright and shiny, do it up. You want a tank with a big ol' flowerhorn by itself in a tank sportin' that big doppy looking forehead, do it up haha, Or if you want a tank full of flat brown, colorless bullhead catfish, go for that too! I would own 3 cichlids ever if I had the tank space-jags, dovii or Oscars, but if other people get enjoyment out of all those other species out there, then that's what this hobby is about, enjoyment.

+1000

This, so much this. I love the breeding behavior of cichlids but I refuse to keep them in a tank with anything but other cichlids because they're jagoffs, and a tank without natives or catfish is a waste of a tank to me.

Dive keeping one cichlid (cutteri) isnt really a large enough sample also maybe you skimped on reseach i have agressive cichlids in with little fish/community type non cichlids in all of my tanks with no issues its about knowing each fish requirements and finding suitible matches.

Woah, woah, woah, you have a bullhead too bro, don't go insulting them, lol. My yellow bullhead is by far my favorite fish out of all 80ish of them.

Nothing wrong with admitting our fish arent the "best" just because we own them.

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[predatorkeeper87]

That would be cool enough for me just to be able to see but I doubt very many if any are out this way in south eastern PA.

right??? I live 30 minutes from that spot and never knew we had an abundance of one of the nicest looking and most interesting fish PA has to offer in my opinion haha

 

[divemaster99]

No way!!!!! I'm going down there and c hecking it out in spring time! Maybe find a few small ones!

When you do fish near the banks in shallow water (4-12" deep) at night with a small bobber with a live fathead suspended under it. You'll get a gar by morning guaranteed, if not several. I almost caught a spotted gar in my marina in Erie last may. Little 18"r was just chilling by a metal pole in the water but wouldn't respond to any bait I tried including a live emerald shiner in front of it's face! Eventually I put a bobber on and tossed the shiner in front of it and the bobber hitting the water scared that thing to the depths, though that was not usual gar behavior .

 

[krichardson]

right??? I live 30 minutes from that spot and never knew we had an abundance of one of the nicest looking and most interesting fish PA has to offer in my opinion haha

I hope you are able to acquire one.

 

[predatorkeeper87]

I hope you are able to acquire one.

Me too! I doubt I will but me too! hahaha.

 

[predatorkeeper87]

When you do fish near the banks in shallow water (4-12" deep) at night with a small bobber with a live fathead suspended under it. You'll get a gar by morning guaranteed, if not several. I almost caught a spotted gar in my marina in Erie last may. Little 18"r was just chilling by a metal pole in the water but wouldn't respond to any bait I tried including a live emerald shiner in front of it's face! Eventually I put a bobber on and tossed the shiner in front of it and the bobber hitting the water scared that thing to the depths, though that was not usual gar behavior .

I'll scope the area, maybe find good spawning locations and see what I can do there.