Apple vs The FBI
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If i remember correctly the media and the white house went to great lengths to say it was work place violence.
The fbi agent in charge as well as the sheriff called it for what it was ....terrorism.
Amazes me why some shy away from calling this terrorism. Is it somehow considered racist?
None of us was there when it happened of course,but in light of previous similar events I think I will go with the newsmedia's accounts on this one
WOW... there's a lot to unpack in these past few days. I'll try address things separately for clarity's sake:
Yeah,
smitty03281964
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pops
I certainly HOPE the courts will do their job and will not force a US company to harm itself (and privacy rights around the world)... But as Pops alludes to, the bigger issue will be winning in the "Court of Public Opinion", which is where the FBI is trying to make its "only one phone" case. If Apple loses the public opinion battle (ie if enough people think Apple should give into the FBI and create a universal key) it could be just as damaging to their brand and force them to comply despite any actual real-world court ruling.
Yeah,
smitty03281964
and
pops
I certainly HOPE the courts will do their job and will not force a US company to harm itself (and privacy rights around the world)... But as Pops alludes to, the bigger issue will be winning in the "Court of Public Opinion", which is where the FBI is trying to make its "only one phone" case. If Apple loses the public opinion battle (ie if enough people think Apple should give into the FBI and create a universal key) it could be just as damaging to their brand and force them to comply despite any actual real-world court ruling.
So while I think we disagree fundamentally
Red Devil
I overwhelmingly agree that there are plenty of "other ways" that Apple could help the FBI get information off of the phone in question. The PROBLEM is, the FBI didn't ask for any of those other ways. They asked, very specifically, for Apple to create a UNIVERSAL KEY that could be used to unlock the phone in question (and oh-by-the-way we admittedly have a ton of other unrelated phones that we want to use this UNIVERSAL KEY for)....so this begs the question: Why didn't (and still not) the FBI ask for a different kind of help; if their true motivation is access to "just one phone"?
i don't know...... but i do know that apple should have followed the judges orders just like anyone of us would have to do.... my opinion... and by the time they do unlock this phone i doubt it will be as much help to the FBI especially after so much public knowledge..So while I think we disagree fundamentally
...so this begs the question: Why didn't (and still not) the FBI ask for a different kind of help; if their true motivation is access to "just one phone"?
The why the FBI didn't ask for one of the other ways is because they really don't care about what is on the phone. They want the key and are trying to use public opinion and fear to get what they want.
If everybody believes so, then there would not be an appeal process in the legal system, Liz
