Wow cool so it is more of a lengthy fish so it just needs more of a long tank right?
Senegal bichir tankmates
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All right cool the reason I was wondering was red hook silver dollars can take a beating for a arowana so I was seeing if they could bounce by from a beating like red hooks and how would angels do with a setup like this
Any fish can take a mild beating, you would be surprised how quickly than can bounce back from a tail being thrashed. The issue is sustained beatings. Aggressive fish need a lot of other fish around them to spread the beatings out. My fire eel has never been attacked, and I cannot speak to what happens when they do, from my experience an unhappy eel will deteriorate rapidly to death, but a happy eel is among the hardiest of fish. I myself went through 3 fire eels before I was able to get one to remain long enough to grow, stress as many will tell you kills a fish quicker than another fish could sometimes.
Arowana as far as I know are not particularly aggressive and fall in the semi aggressive category (they will eat what they feel they can swollow), some cichlids though could destroy even the supreme armor of the mighty pleco. If you have a tank big enough for an arowana, a fire eel would be a cake walk. I would love to get a jardini, but even my 125 would be a sad enclosure for that mammoth... someday I will get a large aquarium big enough for one, but not today... I would also love to get a large indoor pond and keep a few retail cats (I hear they are like puppies and even love a good petting).
It is lengthy, but it is able to bend very easily so size restrictions are a little more lax than say an arowana which needs a very big footprint of a tank so it can turn. The fire eel doesn't worry about turning as it can nearly bend in half if need be. My tank has 6 foot lengths of pvc running along its back for my eel to hide in and rest, it is the happiest of eels (I built the background in my tank with solely him in mind).
Okay thanks I was just going off of the King of DIY he said that red hooks can take quite the beating and bounce back easily because his arowana is not good with other fish and do you know if Angelfish would work or should I put them in a different tankAny fish can take a mild beating, you would be surprised how quickly than can bounce back from a tail being thrashed. The issue is sustained beatings. Aggressive fish need a lot of other fish around them to spread the beatings out. My fire eel has never been attacked, and I cannot speak to what happens when they do, from my experience an unhappy eel will deteriorate rapidly to death, but a happy eel is among the hardiest of fish. I myself went through 3 fire eels before I was able to get one to remain long enough to grow, stress as many will tell you kills a fish quicker than another fish could sometimes.
Arowana as far as I know are not particularly aggressive and fall in the semi aggressive category (they will eat what they feel they can swollow), some cichlids though could destroy even the supreme armor of the mighty pleco. If you have a tank big enough for an arowana, a fire eel would be a cake walk. I would love to get a jardini, but even my 125 would be a sad enclosure for that mammoth... someday I will get a large aquarium big enough for one, but not today... I would also love to get a large indoor pond and keep a few retail cats (I hear they are like puppies and even love a good petting).
Okay so what would the minimum tank size be for a fire eel and how would Angelfish do in this setup thanksIt is lengthy, but it is able to bend very easily so size restrictions are a little more lax than say an arowana which needs a very big footprint of a tank so it can turn. The fire eel doesn't worry about turning as it can nearly bend in half if need be. My tank has 6 foot lengths of pvc running along its back for my eel to hide in and rest, it is the happiest of eels (I built the background in my tank with solely him in mind).
Okay thanks I was just going off of the King of DIY he said that red hooks can take quite the beating and bounce back easily because his arowana is not good with other fish and do you know if Angelfish would work or should I put them in a different tank
Angelfish are a cichlid, somewhat related to discus (though not nearly as picky when it comes to water parameters). Angels can be passive or aggressive, going to the cichlid forum I am sure you will see others have no problem keeping them with other fish, and other stories will have them being terrors that killed many fish. It depends on the individual. I will say, due to the lengthy fins on angels, you will want to avoid find nippers as they would last long. I am not certain who all falls in that find nipper category, but I hear a lot of the smaller barbs and the little puffers are notorious nippers. If it were me, I would get the angels young, so that they can grow with your fish and develop and equilibrium with them, chances are good that they will coexist fine, I am not familiar with the redhooks though so please forgive me.
It's okay about the red hooks and thanks for the info on the angels do what would you say is the minimum tank size for a fire eelAngelfish are a cichlid, somewhat related to discus (though not nearly as picky when it comes to water parameters). Angels can be passive or aggressive, going to the cichlid forum I am sure you will see others have no problem keeping them with other fish, and other stories will have them being terrors that killed many fish. It depends on the individual. I will say, due to the lengthy fins on angels, you will want to avoid find nippers as they would last long. I am not certain who all falls in that find nipper category, but I hear a lot of the smaller barbs and the little puffers are notorious nippers. If it were me, I would get the angels young, so that they can grow with your fish and develop and equilibrium with them, chances are good that they will coexist fine, I am not familiar with the redhooks though so please forgive me.
Okay so what would the minimum tank size be for a fire eel and how would Angelfish do in this setup thanks
Fire eel, I had mine in a 55 gallon up until I got my 125 going, a safe number to go by is you want the smallest dimension of your tank to be at least the length of your fish (as I said fire eels are a little less picky in this regard. That said I would probably put the 16" mark as the limit for a 55. A 125 could probably house up to 2 foot, maybe a little more, but by this time the fire eel should have slowed down in its growth.
The nice thing about these slower growing large fish is their lifespan. Some bichir I have heard reaching the 45 year mark (quite rare, but a dedicated hobbyist can get there). Fire eels I would assume can get up to the 20-30 year mark, but there isn't a lot online about them as few hobbyist keep them in comparison to things like arowana, pleco etc.).
All right cool thanks I probably won't be getting one for a while then and if you want to learn a little about red hooks where I learned the little I know about them is from the King of DIY's channel on youtube and what bichirs are going to stay about the size of the sengal bichir and same care level etc thanksFire eel, I had mine in a 55 gallon up until I got my 125 going, a safe number to go by is you want the smallest dimension of your tank to be at least the length of your fish (as I said fire eels are a little less picky in this regard. That said I would probably put the 16" mark as the limit for a 55. A 125 could probably house up to 2 foot, maybe a little more, but by this time the fire eel should have slowed down in its growth.
The nice thing about these slower growing large fish is their lifespan. Some bichir I have heard reaching the 45 year mark (quite rare, but a dedicated hobbyist can get there). Fire eels I would assume can get up to the 20-30 year mark, but there isn't a lot online about them as few hobbyist keep them in comparison to things like arowana, pleco etc.).
