New to Rope Fish - help on set up

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I believe I mentioned the Cory potential problem earlier, I just didn't think the rope would necessarily be the culprit. :(

Try tilapia but if you see other damage or issue you should remove one or the other immediately. As mentioned, the spines can kill the rope if she gets it further into her mouth.
 
I believe I mentioned the Cory potential problem earlier, I just didn't think the rope would necessarily be the culprit. :(

Try tilapia but if you see other damage or issue you should remove one or the other immediately. As mentioned, the spines can kill the rope if she gets it further into her mouth.

Ya, you did tell me when it came to the polys in the near future. I really didn't think the rope would even try. They stayed clear of each other and the corys are much wider in girth than the rope. Guess she snuck up while one was napping and tried anyway. I feel so horrible, but the Cyclops is now running around with his mates staying right by his side.
 
Ropefish are highly predatory in nature, so some aggression is to be expected despite their docile demeanour. When I ordered 3 ropefish and a couple of bichirs after first buying that one rope at the lfs, the 3 ropes came in one small bag. I don't know what the hell that dingbat at the wholesaler was thinking, because these were all sized between 25 and 30 cm, and I doubt there could've even been two liters of water in the bag. For an overnight trip to Norway from Sweden. Anyway the largest of the ropes, a real fat one, arrived with almost his entire lower jaw freshly torn off although he was still kickin', while the middle size one died the day after from something I imagine might be internal injuries (it was really weird it behaved completely normal and then suddenly started coiling around dramatically and flipping out completely, for some 10-20 seconds. I didn't know if it was happy, angry, or in pain. Then it just died). I've also read a couple of reports of ropefish fighting and being territorial. Also it looks like ropefish babies, like other Polypterids, start out their lives by murdering and eating each other. Then there's the aspect of personality. So I wouldn't exactly be surprised if the ropefish ruined the cory's eye. That being said I've kept cories myself and have always wondered how they manage to not stab eachothers eyes out, this might well be the odd case.

Anyways as mentioned earlier the spikes of the cory might pose a problem for a potential predator, as if it fits into the predator's mouth it'll usually go in head first, anchoring itself like a fishhook and becoming very, very stuck. I actually read about a case where one fella saw his fish with a cory lodged in its throat, but the owner couldn't get the cory unstuck even after hours of careful effort, and both fish died. Polypterids are actually safer than most other fish in this regard owing to their robust make and unique gular plates, but this won't always prove enough. So with cories I say it's better to be safe than sorry. Some of the bigger species of cory will work with ropes and smaller bichirs for life, while the closely related Callichthys is also a great alternative. I have a couple in my bichir tank and they're great.

As for food, my polys will literally eat almost anything, as long as it's not veggies. Just like 8 year old me. They eat my gar's floating pellets, my butterfly fishes' crickets (before they ate the butterfly fish), and even some times they'll eat the suckerfishes' algae wafers. They also love the sinking pellets actually intended for them. I also always feed my tank market prawns a couple of times a week. It's more nutritious than almost anything else, whether you're human or bichir, and all my fish go crazy for it, even the gibby and ancistrus. When I had my butterfly fish I also learned that ropes absolutely love crickets, they come almost the second they hit the water. It's like they gleefully regocnize them from back home, like stumbling over a pizza place in some strange foreign country. Seeing as ropefish are wild-caught (although rumours of successful captive breeding are abound), it wouldn't surprise me if crickets were a staple of their diet as their habitats are very likely to overlap. I have a pair of leopard geckos and I often toss a couple of crickets in there as a treat.

Also a note on the "if it fits in the mouth" thing. With polys it usually means that if it fits in the mouth it will definitely be eaten, and it doesn't stop them from tearing stuff up and then eating it, as in the case of my butterfly fish. I know for certain that the polys dunnit as this was while I was away in the summer, before I got the gar and wolf fish, and prior to this the butterfly fish had bravely started laying claim to the entire surface of the tank. Anyway the jaws of the smaller Polypterid species (especially Senegalus and Polli, perhaps also the Palmas complex) are specifically designed to tear things to shreds, so as to better fit it in their mouths. This is also the purpose of the "death roll" they sometimes exhibit, and it's very effective. So with Polypterids as with many other predatory fish, it's important to choose tank mates that can stand up to themselves or at least have adequate defenses.
Oh and the mouths of Polyperids are much larger than they appear at first, they have very flexible jaws and their skulls actually flatten to widen the gape. I first learned this when I bought a small school of emperor tetras as dither fish, as they were quick and much wider than the mouths of my bichirs at the time, or at least so I thought. They all got eaten rather quickly, and I was almost amazed at how quickly my Polli swallowed one as I caught him in the act one morning.
 
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Mighty Wizard Mighty Wizard boy that all sounds really scary. i'm starting to think when i get my 55 gal, i will just have the ropes and nothing else then when i get my 150, just the ropes and bichirs and nothing else. seems nothing is really safe with them :(

i got the tilapia in the freezer currently. i'll use it at the next feeding. is it possible that maybe the rope is not getting enough food because of the cory's being such piggies and "cleaning" up faster than she (the rope) can get to it? the moment food enters the tank, they are on it like flys on poop in a cow pasture. the bristle is no different really. he eats everything in the tank plus the veggies. they all fight (pushing each other off) over wafers (piggies and bn) so i have to put a few in so they don't fight over them, that has worked out well. but, the bn i have currently is a new one and behaves differently than my albino did (i have always had the albino bn's, so a regular bn this go around is also new to me). the bn is just over an inch and is pals with the rope (keep your enemies close?) but i have spotted him chasing the piggies around. none of my albinos ever did that. which, makes me wonder now if maybe the bn did that to the cory? can they catch, latch and suck off an eye?
 
I keep African knife fish with my polys... Far too big to be eaten
 
Just keep in mind that Polypterids are predators when choosing tank mates, and you'll be fine. Polys get along with an astoundingly wide array of other species, as few are territorial (mostly only bigger species), and they don't seem to mind silvery fish etc, which often easily sets off active piscivores like trout, dorado, wolf fish etc.

So really you do have a lot of potential tank mates to choose from. As someone mentioned earlier, make a list and we'll help you point out any risks.
 
Just keep in mind that Polypterids are predators when choosing tank mates, and you'll be fine. Polys get along with an astoundingly wide array of other species, as few are territorial (mostly only bigger species), and they don't seem to mind silvery fish etc, which often easily sets off active piscivores like trout, dorado, wolf fish etc.

So really you do have a lot of potential tank mates to choose from. As someone mentioned earlier, make a list and we'll help you point out any risks.

i did make a list, it seems most of them are either too small at adult size or not compatible with my tank ph (7.8 to 8.1) or the poly's. the ones that are recommended, don't really catch my fancy, but i'm still hunting. i'm trying to remember who it is that has a big fish named hulk on here. he or she has it with their poly's successfully and it is a beautiful fish too. i can't remember what kind it was or who had or what thread i found it on. not sure what size tank it was in either. i'll have the 55 in month maybe 2 at most. with recent events in my tank, i need to push to get it up faster. then i'll be working on getting the 150 up next summer to winter. i don't have to do bichirs in the 55, but wanted to get a couple to get acquainted. i'll just leave my cory's and bn in with the 10 gal until i get the ropes etc into the 150 next year. then i will move them into the 55 with the semi's i'll be doing. (loaches, barbs etc. had them all together before quite nicely many years ago). so much to consider and think about. most of it is handled, but i'm a little more freaked out now about tank mates with the ropes and polys.
 
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Man im being lazy lol whos gettong the pearsei ? Read a couple posts back and cant figure it out
 
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