Hoplias aimara attack !!!

[moe214]

check out this guy with the dog for comparison lol

man , can you imagine the damage one of these guys could do if it hit you the way my little 13 or 14 incher does ouch ....

This is fc's old wolf. This one is wild caught he has another one that he grew from around a foot I believe to 2'+ now.

check out this video also and listen to what he says about them from about 1 min 20 to the 2 min mark .

let me know if you guys can see these vids i know some were not able to see the ones i posted from the river monster episode i hope these are different and you can see them

lol id take it with a grain of salt cause he said they only get a little bigger then what he was catching and that they crawl across land. Sh had been the only fish caught doing so I believe. If I see a vid of it I'll believe it other wise, grain of salt .

hopefully your slumps ends soon moe , i would have never guessed reading your posts you were that young . you are very knowledgeable regarding fish thats for sure .

thats pretty cool about your black wolf being soo tame . not the kind of fish you would normally think of as getting tame like that . i had a red tail cat a long time ago , and he was like that . he was one of the first fish i kept that started me into this awesome hobby . i will never forget that guy .

but again , another example of a fish that is to me one of the most desirable . but also one that just gets soo large that to keep one very long term is really not reasonable for most people .

i know the same could be said about my wolf fish but they dont grow anywere near the speed off a red tail . and we know that it seems to be pretty rare to so any really huge ones that have been raised from babies to really large size in captivity . also they do sit more in one spot and dont seem to need as much swimming space as some of the other giants .

i would be happy to have just one big wolf say like two feet maybe a bit larger in my tank i think the foot print of my tank also will allow a single big wolf to be relatively happy .

if i can get it to that size i think it will be a success . and if it gets much bigger i will take it to be an exception and deal with housing it appropriately

Well it's mainly math so it's gonna have to. Today I did good cause she actually gave us work to do in class. But outside of class is where the work is supposed to get done at which point there's not much help I can receive. If it doesn't work out in the next two weeks I'm dropping it. I've talked to others and they say no one likes her though, a lot of people apparently drop her class and do it with another professor. And well I've been reading about fish since elementary school, I find a species and I search it up until I've read everything about it. I've done certain species like wolves over and over causenthey interest me so much. And yea it took awhile to get him like that, I only had him for 3.5 years though so not so long to others but he took 6 months to eat in front of me alone lol. Then once he hit a foot a few months after I started petting him during every wc eventually he stopped running then I started letting him sit in my hand which he did no problem I'd see how much he'd let me take him out the water everytime and sure enough it was more and more lol. I did this with an old mala that was my favorite. Not sure if I could pick between the two, interaction was the same for wc but regularly the mala waited up at the top following me for food. Wish I could keep both. And agreed rtc just grow to fast for most people. They don't get that big anymore due to being farm bred over in the us atleast. 3' seems to be the average. It's just their growth rate to two feet most can't keep up with the upgrades. And I'd be happy to have any wolfnover a foot that's when the interaction starts lol

 

[peter predtank]

you guys and your grains of salt lol

i dont know lol

i realize that these guys are making tv shows about the fish . which ever species happens to be the flavor of the week . and they need to make it as exciting as possible for viewers but .

they are going to the location in the wild to catch these fish in there natural habitat . they are talking to locals , hiring them as guides .

people that have lived there for generations , and eat from the rivers its probably there main source of food in some cases . and unlike us more civilized folk here sitting in front of our computers screens discussing and keeping our fish in tanks lol they probably have less access to the pleasures of salting there suppers too lol

but anyway in the one other videos the natives say they have fished for these guys with bows and arrows and bird calls and splashing for hundreds of years . and in this video here it said the fish wait in shallow water to grab birds and mice and whatever other critters come to drink .

i dont know why you wouldn't believe the people that live there , and live with these fish in there back yards . i would believe the natives in any land with regard to the animals they hunt , fish , eat and live with over any arm chair fish hobbiest on the internet lol

just look at these guys they scream we eat anything we can grab . and dont probably care weather it comes with fur pants or naked , legs , feathers , flippers or fins lol anything that moves to them is food . they come with a internal instinct to strike what moves of appropriate size kill it and swallow and they have huge mouths

surely youve herd of walking cat fish moe ? lol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walking_catfish

and dont forget the lung fish lol

as well as the snake head you mentioned . seems reasonable to me to believe the wolf fish could also do a similar trick not the hibernating bit like the lung fish lol but moving across land for short distance to other bodies of water

 

[moe214]

Ok so let me ask you this simple question, do you believe in 10' snakeheads? I don't believe the stories they say that are far fetched. And I mean I know I haven't kept an aimara but I had my fair share of wolves jump out of a net and my gold wolf was the most mobile and he had to spend a lot of energey for a small distance on my class tops and it wasn't towards water like he knew what he was doing. And again I don't doubt the wolves hunting birds etc. I'm just saying it's not a main part of their diet. I can see a large one jumping out for a rodent drinking, same as an aro jumps out at a bug on a leaf. But the difference is it doesn't take up a large part of their diet is all so they aren't best adapted to eat that. There's more beneficial meals for the fishes digestive system. I'm not saying what they say is impossible but without records of it or it being proven via video or photos can't be thrown out as a for sure thing. And yes I've heard of the Clarias species quite a bit lol. There's a video of some idiot who put one with a mala on YouTube and watched them fight fr 15 minutes recording the whole thing, clarias got tough bodies.

Figured you'd bring up lungfish lol, wolves don't have to go through the extremes lungfish do, they get left enough water to wait it out if there is ever a real dry season. Keep in mind wolves can go months without eating as well which could be their adaptation to not have to cross over land to another body of water. I know I didn't see my curu eat after I had him for 1.5 years till it made the 2 year mark. Felt like a little kid all excited lol.

 

[Hendre]

greenerinks wasn't it you who saw that huge aimara?

 

[nzafi]

check out this guy with the dog for comparison lol

man , can you imagine the damage one of these guys could do if it hit you the way my little 13 or 14 incher does ouch ....

Believe that's the aimara of the member here. He's in California and grew it from like 8 or 10in over 5 years.

 

[peter predtank]

moe , well take for instance the video of the lung fish above . i imagine the whole part and scene with the lung fish coming out of the walls was most likely set up for our viewing pleasure and not real .

but were did this idea come from ? probably from stories passed down from or remembered from the native peoples that live were the lung fish live . someone probably told a true story from some time in there life like i remember once when the rainy season came the lung fish crawled out of the walls and slithered back to the river .

its probably a true story and the people that would know these things are the people that live there . as opposed to someone learning about these things from books or the internet or what ever .

maybe the first none native person that herd the story of the fish that slithers out of a houses bricks might not have believed it either .

you have a point about the stories of a ten foot snake head as exaggeration , just as the stories of the 50 meter anaconda .

but in the simple case of a wolf fishes diet and believing what the natives say about there fishing techniques and the types of things im saying here and in nazfi thread . there far more plausible then a ten foot snake head . i never said i think that these fishes diets were mostly made up of land animals i never said that . obviously they live in water but i think they probably eat a lot more animal and bird and snake and lizards then we even know .

and also i dont believe its hard on them to digest these things

 

[moe214]

Believe that's the aimara of the member here. He's in California and grew it from like 8 or 10in over 5 years.

No that's the one he has now, the one in the vid is his old wc one.

moe , well take for instance the video of the lung fish above . i imagine the whole part and scene with the lung fish coming out of the walls was most likely set up for our viewing pleasure and not real .

but were did this idea come from ? probably from stories passed down from or remembered from the native peoples that live were the lung fish live . someone probably told a true story from some time in there life like i remember once when the rainy season came the lung fish crawled out of the walls and slithered back to the river .

its probably a true story and the people that would know these things are the people that live there . as opposed to someone learning about these things from books or the internet or what ever .

maybe the first none native person that herd the story of the fish that slithers out of a houses bricks might not have believed it either .

you have a point about the stories of a ten foot snake head as exaggeration , just as the stories of the 50 meter anaconda .

but in the simple case of a wolf fishes diet and believing what the natives say about there fishing techniques and the types of things im saying here and in nazfi thread . there far more plausible then a ten foot snake head . i never said i think that these fishes diets were mostly made up of land animals i never said that . obviously they live in water but i think they probably eat a lot more animal and bird and snake and lizards then we even know .

and also i dont believe its hard on them to digest these things

I get it, I acknowledged that you may be right, all I was saying was I'm not gonna say anything is for certain, im going to go off of my understanding for fish in general until proven otherwise. And I think a simple study of their bones can prove if they do go on land or not. The bones would have to be thicker tissues tighter etc to deal with gravity because on land they don't have waters buoyancy.

 

[peter predtank]

just wondering about the point your making about the bones and veins moe . its a good suggestion and idea to wonder if they would have showing noticeable differences in there structure . to prove that they might spend time out of water .

although i dont think it would be the case as they would not spend that much time out of water . even the walking catfish would have limits . . the walking catfish would have have thicker stronger spines on there pectoral fins . which probably is part of the reason there good at it . there stiffer and can keep the fish upright and help it push forward .

in the case of the snake head . i have owned a few in the past , and they didnt seem to have and stronger type fins or bones in this way . i think in the case of them , and the wolf fish .

it would be more of a slithering type motion and just the pure tenacity that they are able to move along as well as there ability to breath are from there air bladders and not just gills .

and im not saying that i know all this stuff for certain either just thinking out loud and discussing possibilities with other fish enthusiasts

 

[greenerinks]

Ah yes, I've seen a few WC aimaras that are about a meter long and thick as or thicker than my thigh. They are an absolute monster to behold.. just pure menacing. I've grown my own from 12 to 19"ish. When I first got it at 12", aimara bit me through a thick double layered bag that got the corner of my thumb which still drew blood. At enormous sizes with a rough shrug would most likely lacerate whichever body part of not taking a piece off entirely. That being said, my suppliers here do tell me that giant snakeheads do get to 5 feet and still for the life of me I can't find the pictures anymore that was floating around here in Asia of ones that large. Thick as a human torso basically.

 

[nzafi]

greenerinks posted pics of two different aimara that were 36in. One was in a pond at a supplier and the other was his friends. Wes also posted a pic of his friends aimara that was suppose to be as round as his torso and lived in a 10,000g tank.

Pic courtesy of Fugupuff.