Why we test (after a cycle is done)

[Coryloach]

Some tanks are set up as grow outs for this specific reason.

Using an adequate tanks size for life isnt always feasible

Growing out a fish in a tank too small to support its growth in bioload is either lack of experience on behalf of the fishkeeper or total disregard for the well being of the fish. You can't actually grow a fish properly if its subjected to the odd ammonia and nitrite spikes. The inevitable outcomes are stunting, diseases and early death.

But yeah, sure it is done all the time...

 

[jaws7777]

Growing out a fish in a tank too small to support its growth in bioload is either lack of experience on behalf of the fishkeeper or total disregard for the well being of the fish. You can't actually grow a fish properly if its subjected to the odd ammonia and nitrite spikes. The inevitable outcomes are stunting, diseases and early death.

But yeah, sure it is done all the time...

I honestly have no idea what you are talking about. Why are assuming anything about subjecting the fish to ammonia ?

Its a common practice experienced keepers use quite often.

 

[Coryloach]

I honestly have no idea what you are talking about. Why are assuming anything about subjecting the fish to ammonia ?

One thing people forget is that ammonia is produced 24/7 in a fish tank. It ain't something that appears only when one takes out the test tube to test..... Ammonia levels higher than the amount the tank can support are not something one can remedy with water changes.

 

[jaws7777]

One thing people forget is that ammonia is produced 24/7 in a fish tank. It ain't something that appears only when one takes out the test tube to test..... Ammonia levels higher than the amount the tank can support are not something one can remedy with water changes.

Do you realize what you are saying and how you're applying it to a grow out tank ?

Are you sure you even know what this tank is used for ?

 

[Coryloach]

Do you realize what you are saying and how you're applying it to a grow out tank ?

Are you sure you even know what this tank is used for ?

What I realize is that you have no idea how the chemistry in a tank works....or are just being argumentative as usual.

It is a simple concept: tank size to growth of bioload ratio. Are you trying to say you grow out your fish in a tank too small to support its increase in bioload?

 

[jaws7777]

What I realize is that you have no idea how the chemistry in a tank works....or are just being argumentative as usual.

It is a simple concept: tank size to growth of bioload ratio. Are you trying to say you grow out your fish in a tank too small to support its increase in bioload?

Oh man this place gets better and better every day.

Im not being argumentative by stating a fact. Water chemistry has nothing at all to do with this. Your emotions are getting the better of you again.


If you had a large tank say maybe 300 to 500 gallons. You stock it with large growing fish.... maybe bass, large growing cichlids, or bichirs. Down the road you want to add more fish. The current fish have grown.

What do you do ?

 

[Coryloach]

What do you do ?

You place the fish in a tank big enough to support its growth until ready to go into the bigger tank. If you don't have a grow out tank big enough for the growing bioload don't get that fish...if you care for the fish...

There are no emotions involved on my part by the way...

 

[jaws7777]

You place the fish in a tank big enough to support its growth until ready to go into the bigger tank. If you don't have a grow out tank big enough for the growing bioload don't get that fish...if you care for the fish...

There are no emotions involved on my part by the way...

So you place the fish in a tank while its growing that isnt big enough to support it for the remainder of its life ?

 

[Coryloach]

So you place the fish in a tank while its growing that isnt big enough to support it for the remainder of its life ?

Don't twist what I said. As I said, it's often the lack of experience on behalf of the fish keeper to "grow out" a fish in a tank too small to support its bioload or its a total disregard for the well being of the fish..

Personally, to me it is imperative to grow out fish in the healthiest tank possible, or else I am setting up the fish for an early death and disease riddled life. Ammonia damage is irreversible.

 

[Coryloach]

By the way, this is not to say I haven't done what I preach against when I didn't know any better....