Why we test (after a cycle is done)

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Coryloach said:
Don't twist what I said. As I said, it's often the lack of experience on behalf of the fish keeper to "grow out" a fish in a tank too small to support its bioload or its a total disregard for the well being of the fish..

Personally, to me it is imperative to grow out fish in the healthiest tank possible, or else I am setting up the fish for an early death and disease riddled life. Ammonia damage is irreversible.
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Lmaooo now go back and read post number 10. This entire exchange was pointless.

You interjected the words TOO SMALL yeah duh too small of a grow out or long term tank is not advisable. All i said was taking a fish and using a predetermined idea of what sized tank this fish will require long term will not be accurate if you apply it to a grow out tank. Thats why testing the water imo is even more important in grow out tanks. Not every monster is going to start out in a monster tank. Nothing wrong with this.

I have 18 inch endlicheri that started out in a 20 gal. This is not uncommonl
 
Tank for life, grow out tank, it doesn't make any difference if one doesn't learn to respect their limitations. Unfortunately a lot of hobbyists never figure this out, in an attempt to cram as much in to their glass box as possible. This is exactly why the vast majority of people asking about tank size, and fish, ask what the minimum tank size required is.

I stock lightly, feed within reason, and do frequent massive water changes. No need to test nitrates.
 
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esoxlucius said:
The bio load will increase as they grow and suddenly your fantastic water change schedule you had a month ago just isn't good enough any more.
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Coryloach said:
This just means that the tank was too small for the fish in the first place. An adequate size tank will catch up on the bioload if the fish is kept in a tank that can house it for life.
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jaws7777 said:
ome tanks are set up as grow outs for this specific reason.

Using an adequate tanks size for life isnt always feasible
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What I am reading above is that you claim you can use smaller than adequate size tank to raise a fish? I think my point is very clear...and if it wasn't clear to you in the first place, it should have become clear with the subsequent exchange of polite words that followed :)
 
RD. said:
I stock lightly, feed within reason, and do frequent massive water changes. No need to test nitrates.
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This is exactly what I do. I have not tested nitrates in years. I've got the same exact fish....how boring....
 
Coryloach said:
What I am reading above is that you claim you can use smaller than adequate size tank to raise a fish? I think my point is very clear...and if it wasn't clear to you in the first place, it should have become clear with the subsequent exchange of polite words that followed :)
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"Some tanks are set up as grow outs for this specific reason.

Using an adequate tanks size for life isnt always feasible"


Where am i saying using a smaller than adequate tanks size is acceptable to raise a fish ? The entire basis of the argument your having is on words that you twisted.


I would think you could connect the dots. Grow out tank was mentioned in the line above the adequate tank size comment.

I'll say it again. Sometimes using what would be an adequate tank size for the life of any given fish is not feasible.

Ive used nothing more than a bag of bio and an air stone as filtration for grow outs. As long as im testing frequently and never registering ammonia/nitrite alls good. Wc's take care of the rest
 
LOL, while I find this somewhat entertaining, and I totally get what Frank was saying, the OP really wasn't discussing grow out tanks. I believe his point was that many folks start off with small/young fish and good intentions, only later to get lazy, or forgetful, and don't stay in tune with what's taking place in their tank. The result is their fish eventually end up swimming in a glass toilet.
 
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jaws7777 said:
The entire basis of the argument your having is on words that you twisted.
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You took my words out of context man, and replied to the 2nd half of my sentence in isolation. And you're still stuck in that moment, not being able to move forward, in order to try to prove a point against me.

jaws7777 said:
I'll say it again. Sometimes using what would be an adequate tank size for the life of any given fish is not feasible.
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May I ask if what you say is in anyway related to the below :

"The bio load will increase as they grow and suddenly your fantastic water change schedule you had a month ago just isn't good enough any more."

Or you posted out of context just so we argue again publicly?
 
RD. said:
LOL, while I find this somewhat entertaining, and I totally get what Frank was saying, the OP really wasn't discussing grow out tanks. I believe his point was that many folks start off with small/young fish and good intentions, only later to get lazy, or forgetful, and don't stay in tune with what's taking place in their tank. The result is their fish eventually end up swimming in a glass toilet.
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I dont. Pointless exchange.


I still test the bigger tank once a month before and after a wc just to feel better about myself. Allot of what i know about filtration i learned from duanes. He got me to understand how sometimes the simplest forms of filtration are the most effective.
 
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Coryloach said:
You took my words out of context man, and replied to the 2nd half of my sentence in isolation. And you're still stuck in that moment, not being able to move forward, in order to try to prove a point against me.



May I ask if what you say is in anyway related to the below :

"The bio load will increase as they grow and suddenly your fantastic water change schedule you had a month ago just isn't good enough any more."

Or you posted out of context just so we argue again publicly?
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Buddy i didnt quote you and didnt twist any of your words. I made a comment simple as that. I didnt understand what you were getting at...even asked. No need to continue this. If you truly believe i was trying to start some argument, i was not. If thats not good enough then use the report button and be done with it.:thumbsup:
 
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