How has the coronavirus affected your personal life?

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skjl47

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...covid-test-3-x-3-basketball-tokyo/8016521002/ people who are fully vaccinated are still catching covid. Almost everyday I'm reading stories of fully vaccinated people catching covid. I'm not against the vaccine but I'm almost positive we are not being told the full truth about the virus or the vaccine.
Hello; One thing they are saying is those vaccinated who catch covid are a very small number. That is good. Another thing is they have very mild symptoms or no symptoms which is also good.
I go back to the idea I have that the virus is very common around the world now. That using the example of dust the virus can be in the air just like dust. We who are vaccinated breathe in some dust and virus which gets trapped in the nasal passages in the mucosa. Then someone sticks a swab up the nose and the test comes back positive. As I said before I am not sure how good the nasal test is at measuring quantity of virus. What I recall reading is the test is very sensitive and will show positive with small amounts, perhaps even pieces of of virus. This is where someone on here who knows can provide information about that area of the test. Can the test show the person is actually shedding live virus or is it just a basic yes/no test. My hypothesis is so far that a vaccinated person testing positive may only have some virus present in the nasal area.
It should not be that the active virus is invading body cells, setting up camp and making the cells produce new virus. A vaccinated person is not protected from being exposed to the virus. That is not how the immune system works. The immune system deals with the virus we run into before it can set up camp. This is how I have thought the immune system works. If the vaccinated can truly become infected to the point of shedding virus then something is not right with the vaccine. I also have to wonder if we are being told all.
The daily news cycle about the vaccinated testing positive may be like the way a news cycle gets out of whack about a shark attack. For a few days after an attack the news digs up every attack and it seems like shark attacks are on the rise. Then some one runs the numbers and they find shark attacks are at normal levels.
 
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Lol, I'm absolutely positive that we aren't told the full truth about anything. To some extent, I can agree for the necessity to keep the public in the dark about some information; people are sheep...but we're a special breed of potentially dangerous, nervous and violent sheep...so it seems almost incomprehensible to me that the powers that be don't carefully curate and edit the information which we are fed.

This morning I was tested...again...for Covid. This marks, by my informal count, the 49th time I have been tested. Today I also achieved "fully vaccinated" status, which (at least here) is bestowed upon those worthy individuals who received their second dose of the vaccine 14 days previously. I can now apply for an exemption from the draconian self-isolation requirements my employer inflicts upon me. I can actually buy groceries or gasoline or needed hardware items without being forced to fudge my "isolation clearance questionnaire", which must be filled in every month before flying back up to the jobsite. I can now admit to my employer that when I go home for my week off, I actually kiss my wife and pet my dog and talk to my neighbours. I am, of course, still required at the end of the week to appear at the designated testing facility at 6:45am, get tested, and then sit around on hard school-gymnasium-style chairs until my flight leaves at 4:00pm. I will still need to be re-tested in three days, and then again 4 days after that. I'd better pass those tests; even an "inconclusive" result will land me in the isolation dorm, awaiting a quick trip back to the world, where I get to sit out another 14-day isolation period, fully-vaccinated status notwithstanding.

One of the other members of my crew was driven to the testing hotel by his wife. While he signed in, she walked across the street to a Tim Horton's and got him a coffee (the last decent one he expected to see for three weeks). Five minutes later she was back, and met him at the door to hand him his cup. This was observed by a company security officer; my friend was politely but firmly told that he had "broken quarantine" because, of course, he had signed in at 6:32am, but then been "in contact" with his wife at 6:37am. He was escorted to the door and essentially told to piss off for 14 days and wait for a rescheduled flight.

He had just spent a week living with his wife, but she had somehow turned into some sort of Typhoid Mary during that 5-minute walk across the street. Handing him that coffee apparently threatened the lives and safety of all 2000 people on the jobsite.

These are the rules. Don't like 'em? There's the door.

Now, as a good docile Canuck, I must accept this treatment. I'm applauded by some of my more socially-evolved peers who love to feel smugly superior to those rowdy Americans who don't allow themselves to be pushed around quite so easily. We're so "nice" up here that we, as my father used to say, "won't say #%&@ if we have a mouthful of it".

I realize that my disgust with this will likely be pointed at with shrill howls of indignation by the pitch-fork-and-torch crowd, always eager to expose another anti-social self-centered misfit who doesn't care about his fellow man. That's okay; who was it that first said "The more people I meet, the more I love my dog"?

Do I think it's my "duty" to get vaccinated? Somewhat. Do I think it's a smart thing to do? Yes. Do I accept bullying by those who feel that they are in-the-know, and that anyone who does not agree with them 100% is a dummy? No. Do I completely trust any source of info on Covid? No.

So now I'm fully vaccinated, granting me something like 80-90% (or better) protection against a disease that might have a 1-2% chance of being fatal. I'm probably more likely to be a victim of a shark attack while sitting on the toilet than to be a Covid victim. My normal homelife, living on a rural acreage, is much closer to self-isolation than what many urban folks are now bragging they practice. I'm not afraid of dirt, but I have always been pretty cautious about germs spread from person to person. I feel much safer getting a wet sloppy kiss from my dog than one from some of my relatives.

The best thing about Covid is that it has probably pushed me to completely retire next year, stay home and avoid the idiots and the germs almost entirely.
 

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https://www.wdsu.com/article/nearly...na-residents-have-died-with-covid-19/36955903 I want to see the numbers a year from now. I'm old enough to know when people say something is 99.999% anything it's usually a lie. So I find it hard to believe 99.998 % of people dying are unvaccinated. As for anyone responding to my post I'm not questioning if vaccinated people fair better than those who are not, just don't like how the government is lying to push people back to work and spending money. Sporting events,movie theaters, indoor dining and lots of other things seem totally unessasary when we are dealing with something we know so little about. But hey money makes the world go round especially in the great U.S.A and we also have a surplus of human lab rats in this country, so I'll continue to stay home enjoy my family and watch things unfold.
 

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The vaccines is an experiment at this point. It was made way to fast and not even fda approved. Some people have bad side effects right after taking it. The media is not your friend. With that said which company did u choose to get vaccinated?

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All of life is an experiment. The only thing certain is the final outcome.

I work as an electrician; everything I do at work is based upon electrical theory. Operative word: theory. None of it has been or can be proven; no one has ever seen an electron, nobody can conclusively prove that they even exist. Endless experiments and observations have led us to construct theories which are usepredict what the outcome of various actions will be...but we can't actually be certain of any of it.

Your doctor deals with the practice of medicine. He may be very skilled but he doesn't actually know what he is doing; he is just practicing.

I just read that story linked a couple of posts up, regarding fully-vaccinated Louisiana residents dying "from Covid". Like most journalism, this amounts to one guy telling us all what he claims he thinks another guy said. In this case, it is stated once that these people died "of Covid", but it is stated twice that they died "with Covid". Hmmm...I wonder how many of them died while driving their cars? They finally snap while listening to yet another Covid story on the radio, begin frenziedly pummeling the radio in the dashboard, don't watch the road and plow into the back of a garbage truck. Would that be listed as a death due to Covid? Or perhaps Covid complications? I'd even bet that the death of the garbage truck driver...oops, sorry, "sanitation engineer"...would also be attributed to Covid.

We need a zombie apocalypse sooner rather than later...

Believe what or who you want regarding Covid. Your beliefs, convictions and biases are irrelevant, except to you. Now, before poor fishhead0103666 fishhead0103666 looks at the monster he birthed when creating this thread and has a stroke...maybe we should move on to something less incendiary like...oh, I dunno...aquarium fish? :)
 
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What I believe is that I am a healthier physical specimen than any of my progeny.

I work harder than any of them, and I will probably outlive some of them too.

I don’t hate modern people, but I see them as weak, ineffectual, self-serving hedonists.***

This is nothing new. My grandparents born before cars, saw my generation the same way. We didn’t have what it took to deal with life before modern conveniences like cars, electricity and toilets.

***not fish keepers of course. We’re busy.
 

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Almost every example of that is basically:
Hospital has 500 people with covid all unvaccinated.
Hospitalh as 350 people with covid, all unvaccinated.
Hospital has 450 people with covid, 1 is vaccinated.
OMG! People that have been vaccinated are still getting covid! We are being lied to!
People who take the vaccine and die from it are recorded as having died from Covid.

Once you know this, you realize that all the numbers govt is publishing are meaningless.

We have the greatest data tracking system in the world for Covid now. The problem is that all the data is bunk.
 

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That is not correct. All three of the approved vaccines have achieved FDA Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) to reach market.

So FDA EUA must be a process that is less than traditional FDA approval right? Wrong again. FDA EUA and traditional FDA approval have the same testing and approval requirements. EUA just begins the manufacturing process earlier because, you know, there's a pandemic.

I've probably posted this 5 times through this thread but the (motivated) misinformation remains:

"In a public health emergency, manufacturing and approval of vaccines can be streamlined through an Emergency Use Authorization or EUA. An EUA does not affect vaccine safety, because it does not impact development, such as research, clinical studies and the studying of side effects and adverse reactions. Instead, it speeds up manufacturing and administrative processes."


The vaccines is an experiment at this point. It was made way to fast and not even fda approved. Some people have bad side effects right after taking it. The media is not your friend. With that said which company did u choose to get vaccinated?

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