17,000 gallon pool

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The algal bloom is pretty much inevitable in most ponds during this time of year. Get a bunch of plants in there to start and see how it looks after a few weeks of having plants in there. You might be able to get away with no other filtration and such if you stick with a light stocking of native fishes and have a ton of plants. A submerged bed of plants would look pretty cool on the shallow end plus it would give the fishes some good hiding places.
 
There are a few questions you should ask yourself before planing filtration.

What will you be keeping Koi goldfish Natives ?

What stocking rate are you thinking?

How serious are your plans about the conversion to a pond?

What is the pool constructed of?

Also a budget of what you want to spend this will also determine the final design and outcome as well.

With these questions answered you will be able to ask questions and plan the pool upgrade. I have just finished a pool conversion to a dedicated Koi pond.
Done right it will be a joy to all done without thought and a thorough plan it can and most times turns into a nightmare .
 
AWL9;5022953; said:
There are a few questions you should ask yourself before planing filtration.

What will you be keeping Koi goldfish Natives ?

What stocking rate are you thinking?

How serious are your plans about the conversion to a pond?

What is the pool constructed of?

Also a budget of what you want to spend this will also determine the final design and outcome as well.

With these questions answered you will be able to ask questions and plan the pool upgrade. I have just finished a pool conversion to a dedicated Koi pond.
Done right it will be a joy to all done without thought and a thorough plan it can and most times turns into a nightmare .

Well said, AWL9! Planning definitely makes getting a pond up and running much easier than just winging it.
 
AWL9;5022953; said:
There are a few questions you should ask yourself before planing filtration.

What will you be keeping Koi goldfish Natives ?
planning on mostly natives like bluegills rosy reds maybe a bass or two and a few koi that i got from SD koi show
What stocking rate are you thinking?
dont know yet but i have like 20 rosy reds in there a few goldfish and 4 kois but it wont be super heavy
How serious are your plans about the conversion to a pond?
too late already did
What is the pool constructed of?
uhhh its a cement pool i guess...not a pool expert...its a gray color though
Also a budget of what you want to spend this will also determine the final design and outcome as well.
going with a limited budget
With these questions answered you will be able to ask questions and plan the pool upgrade. I have just finished a pool conversion to a dedicated Koi pond.
Done right it will be a joy to all done without thought and a thorough plan it can and most times turns into a nightmare .
Wiggles92;5022895; said:
The algal bloom is pretty much inevitable in most ponds during this time of year. Get a bunch of plants in there to start and see how it looks after a few weeks of having plants in there. You might be able to get away with no other filtration and such if you stick with a light stocking of native fishes and have a ton of plants. A submerged bed of plants would look pretty cool on the shallow end plus it would give the fishes some good hiding places.
def getting plants just gotta find some...i went to my local koi pond place that i saw they had some water plants and they didnt have any this time:(...any plants u recommend in particular...why does it seem like wen u need something its never there
 
I am not a regular poster here so if I get jumped on so be it

You have dechlorinated water a hole in the ground with some some fish in it
Which has turned green and will depending on temp feed rate turnover flow pattern will only get worse from here on .

17000 gallons is by no means a small body of water it will take a little more than some plants and a UV to become a manageable and enjoyable body of water for you and the fishes .

The plan you come up with for waste management filtration and cleaning will
either make your journey into having a pond either enjoyable or a PITA.
 
AWL9;5023260; said:
I am not a regular poster here so if I get jumped on so be it

You have dechlorinated water a hole in the ground with some some fish in it
Which has turned green and will depending on temp feed rate turnover flow pattern will only get worse from here on .

17000 gallons is by no means a small body of water it will take a little more than some plants and a UV to become a manageable and enjoyable body of water for you and the fishes .

The plan you come up with for waste management filtration and cleaning will
either make your journey into having a pond either enjoyable or a PITA.
so whats your point? at least i dont have 40 kois in there:screwy: im pretty sure 17000 gallons can handle a few rosy red minnows and 3 4 inch koi...and i was asking for advice not criticism about it...:duh:
 
I think you will find that i made 3 points of fact and didn't once criticize what you want to achieve as I dont know the answer to what you want to achieve
I have seen many a pool conversion tried and failed because it is and will always be a pool unless you make it a pond.
regardless of stocking rate 17000 gallons of pond is a lot of water and the plan you put in place now will either make your life hard or easy but that is your choice not mine.
My advice would be dont do a thing except put A uv on it and add some air keep the stock rate low and spend the next couple of months having a good think about how far you want to take it.
Because the first time i did mine it cost me some dosh and the second cost me even more . I look back now and wish I had taken that advice in the beginning and not took it as criticism.(it is like looking in the mirror without a reflection)
A loony/:screwy: I may be but I stood in your shoes 5 years ago so good luck with your choices and may you enjoy or not.
 
Well the quick answer would to be to put the pool cover back on for a week or 2.
Only thing the dying algae could spike the ammonia and kill fish.

A shade cover over the entire pool area to reduce total sun would help. More plants as others have suggested.
Can DIY a filter. There is a bunch of different methods. I'm using a combination of "moving bed bio/swirl filter" and aquaponics for my 7000l system. (Flood and drain gravel beds with veggies)

Filter cost me about $300 AU to build, and another $350 for a decent low power usage 6000lph pump.
That ran fine for quite a while before I added 80 natives and the aquaponics setup with another pump. Appropriately selected fish will avoid heating/cooling systems.
 
Get some water hyacinths. They are cheap, fast growing, and suck out tons of nutrients. Other plants would be hornwort and parrots feather. They all grow pretty fast and can outcompete algae.
 
Privatteer;5024221; said:
Well the quick answer would to be to put the pool cover back on for a week or 2.
Only thing the dying algae could spike the ammonia and kill fish.

A shade cover over the entire pool area to reduce total sun would help. More plants as others have suggested.
Can DIY a filter. There is a bunch of different methods. I'm using a combination of "moving bed bio/swirl filter" and aquaponics for my 7000l system. (Flood and drain gravel beds with veggies)

Filter cost me about $300 AU to build, and another $350 for a decent low power usage 6000lph pump.
That ran fine for quite a while before I added 80 natives and the aquaponics setup with another pump. Appropriately selected fish will avoid heating/cooling systems.[/QUOTE
Well the pool cover is broken rite now lol. Any pics of the diy filter? Mite use it as additional stuff. Mite do the canopy idea but that will be a pain
Pyramid_Party;5026521; said:
Get some water hyacinths. They are cheap, fast growing, and suck out tons of nutrients. Other plants would be hornwort and parrots feather. They all grow pretty fast and can outcompete algae.
for the hornwort wud i just float it? Hyancinths float rite? Wud some hardy lilies be good too? Is a 4ft Shallow end too deep for em though how about cattails mite put some in a corner where theres a step 2 ft below water level.

Thanks
Thomas
 
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