200 dollars gott from dad that havent seen for 2 years
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In the 30L I would do a few blue rams, theyre really cool, and not to hard to breed, and when they breed they have alot of fry, and you could probably make some money breeding them and selling to a LFS
Yeah, definately. Start off with two of good quality (I got two very very nice Rams for $15 together here in Michigan), and treat them right with some plants and do alot of research, and you can easily sell the fry back to LFS. My female died, or I'm sure I'd be doing the same. One LFS (A Something Fishy) offered me $2 for each fry, up to 100. So, there's definate money, ever more with butterfly rams, but they're hard to get ahold of.
Angels are beautiful, almost as nice as German Blue Rams in my opinion. The wild caught Altums are slightly trickier to breed, and I've seen some at a breeders that were 14.5'' tall, but Scalares are abit smaller, and easier to breed, and will still bring in money if you want them too. I think 80-90% Coverage Kois are about $50 a pair, so they're an option if you get further into it and get the hang of the genetics. Plus on here there's even an Angel Fish & Discus section. there's also entire forums dedicated to Angel fish, where alot of breeding gurus discus Angelfish.
If you don't want to do just a couple fish in this tank, the foot print on 30ls are good for Tanganyikan Shell-Dwellers. Around here, there's pretty neutral demand for them. There's no big hype, but people will usually take them off your hands at swap meets and definately online. Cichlid-Forums, where I'm pretty sure you're a member, usually has some for sale in their trade/sell/buy forum, and they get snatched up pretty quickly, so there's definately a market. I myself are looking into it for a spare 20long that I have sitting around.
I don't really have experience with Kribs, but they look nice. ^^
And another suggestion if you think you can handle the slighty-above-average demands of the fish are Discus. It may be more expensive to get started, but they're more than a joy to breed I hear, and again, there's numerous forums and sites with loads of information about them. The various strains and bloodlines will make your head spin, and I think that's part of the fun, personally.
Angels are beautiful, almost as nice as German Blue Rams in my opinion. The wild caught Altums are slightly trickier to breed, and I've seen some at a breeders that were 14.5'' tall, but Scalares are abit smaller, and easier to breed, and will still bring in money if you want them too. I think 80-90% Coverage Kois are about $50 a pair, so they're an option if you get further into it and get the hang of the genetics. Plus on here there's even an Angel Fish & Discus section. there's also entire forums dedicated to Angel fish, where alot of breeding gurus discus Angelfish.
If you don't want to do just a couple fish in this tank, the foot print on 30ls are good for Tanganyikan Shell-Dwellers. Around here, there's pretty neutral demand for them. There's no big hype, but people will usually take them off your hands at swap meets and definately online. Cichlid-Forums, where I'm pretty sure you're a member, usually has some for sale in their trade/sell/buy forum, and they get snatched up pretty quickly, so there's definately a market. I myself are looking into it for a spare 20long that I have sitting around.
I don't really have experience with Kribs, but they look nice. ^^
And another suggestion if you think you can handle the slighty-above-average demands of the fish are Discus. It may be more expensive to get started, but they're more than a joy to breed I hear, and again, there's numerous forums and sites with loads of information about them. The various strains and bloodlines will make your head spin, and I think that's part of the fun, personally.
To the guy that says firemouths are too large.... Angels get larger (you suggested those) Just a reminder.
Rams are awesome, so are kribs. I would actually try for a pair of firemouths - get a pair to form and get rid of the extras.
Rams are awesome, so are kribs. I would actually try for a pair of firemouths - get a pair to form and get rid of the extras.
just to warn you though, unless you have soft acidic water, do not do rams, because they are very tempermental and will pretty much die instantly in the wrong water conditions.
You probably need RO water, seriously with my experience with them they are much harder to care for than discus.
bolivian rams are much easier though, and much hardier. Definitely start with those just to avoid heartbreak with the blue rams.
You probably need RO water, seriously with my experience with them they are much harder to care for than discus.
bolivian rams are much easier though, and much hardier. Definitely start with those just to avoid heartbreak with the blue rams.
PoopSmart;1060930; said:
I gotta disagree with this. I haven't personally kept discus or GBRs, but my co-worker (who is also a member of this site= Nukeman) has. GBRs were his very first fish.
He started out with two males (by accident) and was trying for a breeding pair. I suggested he add another female, so I went with him to pick one out. He brought it home, and not two days later they were digging pits and guarding a small pot in the tank. Since, they have laid two batches of eggs, and one batch hatched into wrigglers. Unfortunately the parents ate the fry on both occasions but they will get it right soon enough.
My point is that our Ph here is 7.6, and the water is fairly hard. He used no chemical treatment other than dechlorinator, and these rams have thrived. IMO, its all about the water the LFS has vs the water you keep in your tanks. If they are relatively similar, you shouldn't have a problem.
Go for German Blue Rams CB, they look awesome in breeding colors.
