300ish Gallon plywood - First attempt

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Muni,

Looks great, Down to the last three weeks of the chores. My wife is getting me some tools for christmas to do the job, (along with a picnic table I will build out of an old restuarant sign that is in the back yard of the house we are renting)

Keep up the great updates.

Bear
 
Very cool, i read every page so far and it's amazing how much more impressive some DIY builds are than others just because they have prior building experience and the right set of tools. Your tank is coming out great BTW, and I personally would just go ahead and build myself a corner overflow box and use the concept in this video:[YT]<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/zID7cfbeTTM&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/zID7cfbeTTM&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>[/YT]. I thought it was interesting how he uses the overflow box as an drain and a water input. You might want to take a look at this for your own sump build. But don't do the empty sump thing (euro sump thing), i think it's stupid, put in some bioballs etc and you can add that micron sock thing you had. GL. BTW, i'm now subscribed. =) Keep us updated.
 
I think the response-per-view is because no one wants to get their hopes up.

How many threads have we seen get this far and then fall off the map. Who was the guy with the 24 foot long office tank that had pictures of that beast through the whole build, up to filled with 1 fish but never came back to show a finished product? That thread went on for months.

I'm pretty active on these boards and I don't comment on build threads unless I feel like I have something to add to the discussion. You seem more than competent and it doesn't seem like you need any help/advice.
 
I love your build and how fast you're progressing. Count me in as subscribed.
 
Matt724;3686504; said:
Very cool, i read every page so far and it's amazing how much more impressive some DIY builds are than others just because they have prior building experience and the right set of tools. Your tank is coming out great BTW, and I personally would just go ahead and build myself a corner overflow box and use the concept in this video:[YT]<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/zID7cfbeTTM&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/zID7cfbeTTM&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>[/YT]. I thought it was interesting how he uses the overflow box as an drain and a water input. You might want to take a look at this for your own sump build. But don't do the empty sump thing (euro sump thing), i think it's stupid, put in some bioballs etc and you can add that micron sock thing you had. GL. BTW, i'm now subscribed. =) Keep us updated.


Nice vid. They should leak test without salt 1st tho.
 
Great build and documentation. Enjoying the read. I hate stopping to take pictures when I'm doing something. My hats off to you for all the extra work required to share with us.

Accident
 
Muni;3686276; said:
I find it interesting that I'm getting about 1 response for every 25 views or so.

The better quality work + the better quality posts/pics = Less responses... lol. Seriously though, you're doing some awesome work and I tend not to jump in unless I have some questions.

Muni;3683043; said:
Mostly for looks but there is also a bit of structural benefit. More wood equals more strength. I did it purely for cosmetic purposes though.

You're plywood appreciates it, the stress in each corner is significantly reduced by making it a round corner. On ships we will actually drill a hole at the end of a crack to reduce the stresses and keep it from spreading... probably something you'll never have to be concerned about, but its one more safety factor you have built in.
 
Rivermud;3686438; said:
Maybe I should have been more clear with my question, I feel bad because it sounds as if I haven't read the thread.. I have. What I meant was the bulkhead/piping system to get to the sump and then of course how the sump was going to be used... whether the standard clasic mech/bio/return, or something like a refugium or algea sheet combo? I built mine with the idea of using a classic style sump. However, when I found my flow rates were lower than anticipated I rethought my design and made a plant filter...


I didn't mean to sound needy. It's just nice to talk to people and get feed back from time to time.

In response to your question: My intentions as of now are to use my sump in the standard Mechanical/bio filtration method. I've stolen this lovely picture from Jcardona. It helped me out a lot.
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Using a filter sock on the inlet side of the sump. Finer micron for start up and to clarify the water when needed but something less aggressive for normal use to keep it from plugging up as often. The main Bio chamber will be a drip tray system over pot scrubbies most likely as they offer a large surface area at a low initial and maintenance cost.

The water will be returned to the tank by a pump of some variety. Haven't decided on the volume I'm going to need as of this point. I'm thinking something in the 1500 GpH range. That would turnover my tank about 5 times at full capacity. But since it will have about 4-5 feet of head it will probably be a bit lower.

I'm going to use reinforced vinyl tubing for as many lines as possible as it is flexible and should help reduce any falling water noise. I'd rather not have an aquarium that sounds like a flushing toilet all the time.

For water pickup to the sump. I'm Thinking of taking a piece of acrylic and blocking off one of the back corners at 45* angle. Drilling my overflow tube near the base of the tank and cutting it to length to set my water level. Simple way of doing it. Feathering the top of the acrylic board to let water in and keep fish out.

For water return, I'm going to use spray bar design at the opposite end of the tank from the overflow box. It will me most of the length of the tank from front to back with large enough orifices to reduce the water pressure going into the tank. I'm trying to achieve a gentle flow and not raging river currents or sounds.

I'm also playing with the Idea of drilling an additional bulk head in at water change level so I can hook a hose to the back of the tank on the fitting and open the valve so it will drain to the preset level. I could also use it to fill the tank back up but would require supervision. My intention was to buy a cheap garden hose and cut one end off and put on a replacement female end. So the hose would have two female ends. Run it to the train until done. Then take it to my water source and fill it back up again. Close the valve and roll up the hose. No fuss, no mess, no sucking on clear tubing for 80 bucketfuls of water.

I hope that explains everything. I wrote that out mostly to help solidify the idea in my mind. I've been tossing around ideas so this gave me the chance to decide on what I want to do.

Does anyone see anything I'm missing?

And again thank you for the comments. They are appreciated but not REQUIRED. lo.
 
I'm also playing with the Idea of drilling an additional bulk head in at water change level so I can hook a hose to the back of the tank on the fitting and open the valve so it will drain to the preset level.

One of the main things I like about a sump is removing as much plumbing/heating/non-aquascaping from the tank as possible. I like the idea of a bulkhead to drain/fill, but I'd want to put it in the sump (even if it meant having to watch the water level) to avoid any additional holes/plumbing at the tank.

my 2c
 
kallmond;3687258; said:
One of the main things I like about a sump is removing as much plumbing/heating/non-aquascaping from the tank as possible. I like the idea of a bulkhead to drain/fill, but I'd want to put it in the sump (even if it meant having to watch the water level) to avoid any additional holes/plumbing at the tank.

my 2c


The way I'm setting it up though. That wouldn't work. The water would only drain to the top of the overflow tube. Maybe 30 gallons.

It wouldn't be much additional plumbing. Just a bulkhead and a 90 off the back with a threaded end. I'd probably paint it black and hide it.
 
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