ok thanks, I hope I can get the tank but it is up to whether or not my mom will let me, will a rope fish eat rosy reds and stuff and would he get along with a butterfly fish and dwarf pike
38 gallon tank predators?
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I would not put anything larger than a 3.5" fish in a 38 gallon tank, which limits your selection (IMO) drastically.Actually I want to see how a certain few people I know will respond to that comment
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Many predatory fish are territorial, so add 2 end up with 1 should be considered the end run. There is no where to run in a tank of that size, ensuring death of one or the other, maybe both from fungus to the winning gladiator.
ok thanks, I hope I can get the tank but it is up to whether or not my mom will let me, will a rope fish eat rosy reds and stuff and would he get along with a butterfly fish and dwarf pike
a rope fish is a bottom dweller and an african butterfly fish is a top dweller so I don't think that'll be a problem, I don't know about a dwarf pike cichlid though. If those won't work I might just move my 29 into the 38
38 too small for ropefish IMO. Those guys can get pretty long. I would stick with the African butterfly, and maybe a peacock spiny eel if you like elongated fish.
Feeding rosies is a bad idea in my opinion, even if you quarantine for a couple months. Internal parasites can be quite difficult to diagnose and treat. Not to mention, the rosies are not good source of nutrition unless you gutload. And then it's all this effort, why, just so you can watch something die? Seems silly to me.
Feeding rosies is a bad idea in my opinion, even if you quarantine for a couple months. Internal parasites can be quite difficult to diagnose and treat. Not to mention, the rosies are not good source of nutrition unless you gutload. And then it's all this effort, why, just so you can watch something die? Seems silly to me.
but they're incredibly flexible and seem to do fine in a 30 gallon, I'm assuming an albino senegal bichir would be too big as well, so I think I might go for a crocodile fish or butterfly fish, maybe a dwarf pike cichlid too
tank size is an opinion thing, but there are certain cases where it comes down to common sense. Yes they are flexible, but a 38 gallon is what, probably 12 inches wide? The fish wouldn't be able to fully extend width-wise, let alone have room to swim around. Sounds incredibly claustrophobic to me. Albino senegal bichir might be better than the ropefish, but to me the tank is too small for either option. Senegal's are very active, I used to have one in a 90 and it swam non-stop.
Dwarf pikes would be a decent option, though I would get a group instead of one, and give them the whole tank with some dithers too large to eat, like hatchetfish
are they going to be predatory though? I was thinking a butterfly fish for sure and some sort of bottom dweller, either a bichir or a rope fish and possibly some smaller african cichlids, what about discus, how would they do in a 38
I agree with Gourami Swami, rose reds are notorious disease and parasite carriers. You probably can't quarantine them long enough, before feeding to know if they are disease free. All it takes is one, and your tank is doomed, or ends up with an expensive lengthy treatment regime.
If you consider the low cost of RRs, then imagine the kind of conditions affordable to the way they are raised.
And on Gas other point, flexibility has little to do with the welfare of the species you are trying to keep, unless you are really not concerned with their actual quality of life.
If you consider the low cost of RRs, then imagine the kind of conditions affordable to the way they are raised.
And on Gas other point, flexibility has little to do with the welfare of the species you are trying to keep, unless you are really not concerned with their actual quality of life.
hmmmmmm, ok, I'll try to see if I can get exodon, if not I think I'll just go for some african cichlids, mainly tanganyika (julidochromis) cichlids, apistogrammas, and kribensis and an african butterfly fish (I think those would work), any bottom dwelling fish?
I'm glad you are here asking questions- mixing all those African cichlids, with apistos, would not be a great idea. Tankganyikan cichlids out of all African cichlids, need the highest pH to thrive. Apistogrammas come from south America, where water is usually soft and pH is low. The two wouldn't be able to thrive together- one or the other would be out of sorts.
However, if you're interested in tanganyikans, I think that would be a great idea. You could easily do a colony of shell-dwellers such as n. ocellatus, as well as a small group of altolamprologus compressiceps. would make a great display and be interesting to watch the fish interact with each other. I'd use crushed coral substrate to ensure hard high-pH water. They will eat brine shrimp and ghost shrimp- might satisfy your desire to see something get eaten, and be much healthier than rosy reds.
