770 Gallon Monster Setup

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Like i mentioned i think the difference is in 1 being with glass housing and the other is in stainles steel,i dont know i just bought 4 sets off different brands to compare them,i denmark we also use 220 volt and not 110 volts like you do over there so maybe thare are more differences in how the heaters are made ?
it was just to help out so you could have as low as possible power consumption and i choose the cheap choson heaters,my electric bill is over 400 $ a month just for the fish and feedertanks.
I tested the 4 different brands over a 8 month period and the choson won over jager,via aqua,aquael and newatt on a constant temp off 26 degress celcius or 78.8 fahrenheit,the choson save me so much power that they will have paid for the all the heaters i have bought for the test in 10-11 months.
 
I know my tank being inside will be very different but the guy I got my tank from was only using 3 heaters with the tank, he said he thought they were 2-250 watt heaters and a 300 watt heater, I am interested to see what it will really take to heat this thing. I think I am going to try ordering 3-300 watt setups and try them out, maybe being inside and the pump will help heat it really well, I can always hope. I just hope my pump will not use crazy amounts of power, I am thinking of getting a meter to test the usage for fun, seems like a neat tool, would you recommend getting the same usage meter as you got or another different type?
 
Like i mentioned i think the difference is in 1 being with glass housing and the other is in stainles steel,i dont know i just bought 4 sets off different brands to compare them,i denmark we also use 220 volt and not 110 volts like you do over there so maybe thare are more differences in how the heaters are made ?
it was just to help out so you could have as low as possible power consumption and i choose the cheap choson heaters,my electric bill is over 400 $ a month just for the fish and feedertanks.
I tested the 4 different brands over a 8 month period and the choson won over jager,via aqua,aquael and newatt on a constant temp off 26 degress celcius or 78.8 fahrenheit,the choson save me so much power that they will have paid for the all the heaters i have bought for the test in 10-11 months.

Interesting. Was the ambient air temperature the same over that 8 month period? I mean no disrespect at all, but all the research I have done on heating leads me to believe that there should be no difference in regards to what the heater is wrapped in (be it titanium, glass etc.). The heat generated by the coil should dissipate the same regardless of what the heating element is wrapped in. Some things conduct heat faster than others, but the energy would need to be absorbed by the water over a period of time just the same. In other words, 1 watt of energy is 1 watt of energy regardless of the medium used to deliver it into the water. But you have definitely sparked my interest. Do you have a link to these heaters you are using?

I know my tank being inside will be very different but the guy I got my tank from was only using 3 heaters with the tank, he said he thought they were 2-250 watt heaters and a 300 watt heater, I am interested to see what it will really take to heat this thing. I think I am going to try ordering 3-300 watt setups and try them out, maybe being inside and the pump will help heat it really well, I can always hope. I just hope my pump will not use crazy amounts of power, I am thinking of getting a meter to test the usage for fun, seems like a neat tool, would you recommend getting the same usage meter as you got or another different type?

Here's the Kill-a-watt I have: http://www.amazon.com/P3-Internatio...MDBU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1336023540&sr=8-2

They sell a fancier one that will do the math for cost (you enter your municipalities cost per KWHr and it will provide you with the cost of running the piece of equipment you are testing), but if you have a calculator it's easy enough to determine and in my opinion not worth the extra ~$10. I think if your tank is going to be in a room in which the air temperature will not be more than 10F below your desired water temperature, you should be fine using only 2 watts per gallon or possibly even less. I'm running around 2.3 watts per gallon, and in the winter time I am maintaining temps that are sometimes 30F above the room temperature. But my tank is really well insulated; I don't have too much heat escaping, so I don't need to replace all that much heat.

Here's a calcualtor that I found to be pretty helpful. I found that it slightly overstates the required wattage, but it's the best online calculator I have been able to find: http://www.hamzasreef.com/Contents/Calculators/HeaterChillerSizing.php
 
We see alot about the costs of electricity. How much has your water bill gone up?
 
Awesome tank and good reading thread.....I saw your input in the thread about kids getting large tanks in general aquarium discussion and was wondering what kind of set up you had.... I sure got an answer in the form of this thread.
 
Well where he lives water is more expensive. Where I live I will have a drip system up and running constantly and addition water cost will be Max 40.00 for a whole year. Water really does not cost too much.

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Now THAT is a TANK.

Question? Why was there a slope in your floor, of almost 1-1/4"? Usually you'd find that for a garage.

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