AC fans vs. all others

  • We are currently upgrading MFK. thanks! -neo

how many of us are fans of AC's (with & w/o sponge filters)?

  • AC's only

    Votes: 16 15.2%

  • other HOB's only

    Votes: 6 5.7%

  • canisters only

    Votes: 17 16.2%

  • both AC + other HOB

    Votes: 6 5.7%

  • both AC + canisters

    Votes: 50 47.6%

  • both other HOB + canisters

    Votes: 10 9.5%
  • Total voters
    105
  • Poll closed .
LD50;3913212; said:
Ok, bio balls/scrubbies vs substrate pro. Both will work just fine in wet/dry applications as your growing the same bacteria. The extra O2 just helps up cellular resparation thus upping the metabolism of the BB which means they can consume NH3 faster, as well as reproduce faster. The substrate pro just gives a much larger surface area in a smaller package than bio balls or scrubbies which is great for canisters or in this case HOB's where your working with limited space. As far as the AC having space for 5x the ammount of substrate thats super but its way overkill. I say this because BB is grown in direct perportion to the ammount of waste (food for bb) in the tank, not how much media you have. So unless you have some absurd stock like 15 adult oscars in a 75, the extra media in an AC is just that, extra.
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I agree with the overkill. Thats how most people like their filtration though. More than needed is better than not enough. I use both with great success. I just really think if you have the extra cash get the ac110. Then if i had 20$ more i would buy an xp3 instead. I think its a matter of cash in hand ATM. I think most would buy an ac110 if they had the 80$ dedicated to a filter. There is no doubt in my mind that ac110 can handle more gallons for filtration. Though not everyone needs that. A emp 400 does a great job the gallons its suppose to filter. Both are great filters that are recomened for different tank sizes. I use both with success. My emp is always dirtier , but the ac110 tanks parms are always better. End O Story
 
bitteraspects;3876822; said:
you can get them even cheaper if you shop around.

here petmart has them new for $38.99
http://www.google.com/products/cata...CAQrQQwAA&cid=14612329225282346976&sa=title#p

or if you go the ebay route, they go for around $60 pretty regularly. if you contact a seller who has them new, they will usually cut you a deal if you buy more than one.
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http://www.google.com/products/cata...CAQrQQwAA&cid=14612329225282346976&sa=title#p

the price you quote for petsmart is for a smaller unit, it's $90 for ac110
 
How bout them 20$ AC70's hell yeah I picked up a bunch sold most on cl n got me some free filters!! I have some mods for AC models. Bio-wheels, extra trickle filter for bio-balls, ceramic rings or whatever!anyone else putn bio-wheels on AC's or other mods??ill show you mine if you show me yours! Lmao!!
 
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