Aequidens rivulatus

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not this again :wall:

as soon as i saw the thread title and 4 pages i knew exactly what was here.

shesh somebody should put up a sticky with the correct info, i didn't read the thread being that i've read a million of these, FYI, listen to whatever modest man says, he's got the best grasp on this subject from what i've seen and discussed with him.

if anyone needs a libary of adult pictures of these guys i've owned alot of them.
 
cornbread_5;2781692; said:
who were u referring to david
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Your post. I agreed that being wild has nothing to do with being called a silver saum, and stated that because there is no official definition there is no way to prove someone is lying for selling a fish as a silver saum.

Has anyone actually seen the actual, most recent description of the species Aequidens rivulatus? Because with out knowing the defining characteristics as set out in that description this discussing is based on nothing but hot air. Even then, all we are able to achieve is being able to say "yes that fish matches the description and can be considered A. rivulatus" or "no it does not match the description, and is therefor one of the as-yet unidentified members of the genus Aequidens". If you assume because it has not yet been classified as Aequidens rivulatus that it is not, what will happen if someone does classify those undescribed species just reigonal varients of the species?

I would say that the closest thing you could use as a name for all the other "untrue green terrors" (ie not fitting the current description of A. rivulatus) would be Aequidens aff. rivulatus, or Aequidens cf. rivulatus if you are less sure that they are closely related, if not the same.

But thats just my take on the situation. IMO it certainly isn't anywhere near as cut and dry as people make it out to be, and anyone who says "that is/isn't a blah blah blah" should think twice about what they are basing that statement on and the definite nature of it, given that there are so many similar fish of the same genus still unclassified.
 
TrikkyMakk;2781489; said:
Not to fuel a debate but there are three 'green terrors'. Gold saum, silver saum (aka white saum) and rivulatus which is silbersaum.

http://www.thewatersnake.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=525&mode=threaded

I like to refer to rivulatus as original green terror rather than true green terror as it is commonly referred.
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this is the best way i have ever seen this explained! very well put! you are right! those are the 3 common and latin names!
 
Well all I want to say is nice pickup Cornbread. I would get into this conversation but I would rather read all you guys opinions and facts first.

Seeing how you have 6 now if you ever need to get rid of a few I got tanks for them!

Of course when you get some size on them and see which ones you want.
 
I certainly wouldn't take the link posted by TrikkyMakk as gospel, although the link in that thread does shed a little more light on things. http://www.lem.net/alf/aeq.htm#rivulatus
It would seem that there are two different descriptions for the species Aequidens rivulatus, one by Gunther in 1859, of a fish from Ecuador, and a later one by Kullander much more recently of a fish from Peru. So, does the more recent revision of the genus and the species make the older one obsolete? I'm not sure, and I'm happy to admit that. Going by that link it seems like even the classification of the genus is still up for debate. This just helps prove my point that we [hobbyists] are not the people to be saying what is and isn't a certain species, in a case such as this that is still very unclear.....
 
Dang Cornbread, those Rivalatus are microscopic.


TrikkyMakk;2781572; said:
My Precious has (with a little help from my convict Julio I suspect) ripped in half a small pleco and killed two crawfish.

In fact, sometimes my Precious seems to almost treat the SDs like they are groupies or worshippers or something.
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You sound like Gollum.
my precious.JPG

:ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:
 
balton777;2783136; said:
^^
:j/k: I was only messing around Trikky.


Hey Cornbread, take good care of those little fellows and keep us updated.
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If you saw my precious fish you would understand why she is named Precious.

She is beauty and penchant for killing all rolled up in one feisty little fish I tell you. :grinno:
 
crenipterus svenagalus;2782203; said:
this is the best way i have ever seen this explained! very well put! you are right! those are the 3 common and latin names!
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I found that article a long time ago and it cleared up a whole lot about this timeless question.
 
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