Aimara with rays?

[jlnguyen74]

Blimey do you think you might get a few more fish in there..LOL!! Nice fish by the way, now thats a predator tank!
Stocking levels such as this will ensure none of these fish will grow into monsters, also you have chosen your fish wisely which is good to see.The fish are all of equal size also within reason, heavy stocking also reduces aggression, generally the fish will sustain a few split fins etc but fatalities are rare in busy tanks like this. Give the fish room to establish terrritories and you will see differeces in the fishes disposition...aggression in often based on the situation they find themselves in.
I have found once the Wolf reaches 18"-24" inches they are far more likely to show aggression, I have been attacked many times during tank maintenance....they hit very hard when they do attack!
Love the big Endlicheri (Spelling).

Aimara loves to attack human, net, or other Aimara, but surprisingly, get along better with other fish, even with other species of Hoplias. Link below is a 27" Venezuela Aimara that had pygos and mouse for snack, yet live well with pacu

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/f...-Hoplias-aimara-set-up-in-his-pond&highlight=

 

[Mike King]

Aimara loves to attack human, net, or other Aimara, but surprisingly, get along better with other fish, even with other species of Hoplias. Link below is a 27" Venezuela Aimara that had pygos and mouse for snack, yet live well with pacu

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/f...-Hoplias-aimara-set-up-in-his-pond&highlight=

Since this is my VZ Aimara in the video, I can attest that it is about 29" currently and eats everything in sight... except his Pacu pals!!! He swims with them and actually will protect them by getting in front of them between me and them during tank maintenance. Now, i agree, if i was to try to introduce another fish to their pond it would be an epic fail. The Aimara will attack that fish with fury until the fish is either dead or in his belly. I have no doubt that i could put him in another pond where other fish are already established. The problem arrises when you try to add a new fish into an established large Aimara's territory.

 

[Anderman]

That Aimara you see is 18"-20" Venezuela speciment, and the tank that you said "overstocked" is bigger than your listed biggest tank! You just have a 6-in Aimara for less than a year, and it's about the same size the one DB has, and you talk like you know everything about Aimara.

Again people attacking for no reason! So here is it right back at you!

Who cares what specimen it is as that has nothing to do with the thread and if I remember correctly Venezuela are the most common of Aimara's imported! Too bad as mine is from Guyana and they are supposed to attain even a bigger size then your Venny! Hence why mine is growing so fast! Not to mention you are wrong on the size as its over 15" now! I didn't know we were comparing tank sizes on this thread but IMO your tank is over stocked no matter what size it is and your Aimara will never attain it's full potential if kept like this for its life! Looks like a crammed pet store tank but then again I may be wrong and the fish could be for sale and this may not be their permanent home! Hopefully I am wrong and they will live their long lives in a more spacious environment.

 

[DB junkie]

Go start your own thread.

No sense in screwing this one up this one up. It's obvious you're going out of your way to agrue with people, and you're pulling this crap in threads that have decent information in them till you come along and intentionally start arguements to get my threads closed. I started this thread for others to share thier opinions. You shared yours now go away and let the people cohabbing thier Aimara enjoy them.

 

[Mike King]

DB- you know i would try to keep anything with an aimara as long as it is done right. you never know until you try it. just make sure to pay attention so you can get one of them out if trouble arises. I'm glad you posted this thread... very good topic!!

blkpiranha - as far as VZ being common.. you have no idea what you are talking about. VZ are illegal to export out of Venezuela. They are by far the most rare in captivity. They are very common to find in the wild... most locals find them to be a pain in the arse!

 

[Anderman]

DB- you know i would try to keep anything with an aimara as long as it is done right. you never know until you try it. just make sure to pay attention so you can get one of them out if trouble arises. I'm glad you posted this thread... very good topic!!

blkpiranha - as far as VZ being common.. you have no idea what you are talking about. VZ are illegal to export out of Venezuela. They are by far the most rare in captivity. They are very common to find in the wild... most locals find them to be a pain in the arse!

Seems to me that illegal export doesn't stop anyone from getting them along with a lot other fish in peoples tanks. FRT's come to mind also as they are Illegal to export and can be found all over Canada! Why does he have one in his tank then if it was illegal? Black arowanas are illegal to export from the area that they are collected and that doesn't stop them from being sold in pet stores or from me owning a pair. Illegal to export doesn't make it rare!

 

[DB junkie]

DB- you know i would try to keep anything with an aimara as long as it is done right. you never know until you try it. just make sure to pay attention so you can get one of them out if trouble arises. I'm glad you posted this thread... very good topic!!

I know they can. Mine hasn't had problems with anything in the tank with him except a siphon. Several species of Barbs, an Aro, several species of rays, multiple Brycon. My Aimara has been with other fish since this thread was started. It did kill a catfish and stole it's spot behind the powerheaded sponge filter, but have had no issues with any other fish. The wolf enjoys swimming with the Brycon, and the smaller of the 2 Brycon is significantly smaller then the wolf.

I have seen what you're talking about with the Aimara putting itself between me/siphon and the rays. The wolf acts like a gaurd dog for the rays. The wolf seems very protective of the rays.

Can't wait till the lil bugger is big enough to hold it's own in the big tank with the adult rays...... I'm sure the wolf will eventually butcher everything in the tank, then everything in the house. Probobly kill me in my sleep. But untill that happens, I'm gonna continue to enjoy watching the wolf interact with other fish.

 

[Mike King]

Ok dude, i have no idea why you continue to argue with everyone... I agree that i do not have any clue what is common or uncommon in the great Canadian provinces and nor do i care but in the states VZ's are far more rare then your Guyana locality. Yes, illegal to export does make it more rare then a locality coming from a country that allows exportation. It's a simple fact that it is far easier to export fish that doesn't require it to be smuggled out of a country first. Does that mean they do not exist in the hobby..NO, i never said it did but i would be willing to bet that you are less then an expert on the import/export of Aimara.. does that mean you know nothing about Aimara.. NO again. you have the knowledge acquired from owning a single Aimara for less then a year! So, yes you do know something about THAT fish. As for housing them in a community i have not seen the evidence that you have any knowledge in this area. is it risky to put an Aimara in a community?? You bet it can be but so can't housing a Dovii and a Midas in the same tank and that's been done over and over. I am not and never claimed to know everything about Aimara but i do know that housing them in a community is possible and will have no problem adding mine into my 5,000 gal community tank when it is completed.

 

[Mike King]

I know they can. Mine hasn't had problems with anything in the tank with him except a siphon. Several species of Barbs, an Aro, several species of rays, multiple Brycon. My Aimara has been with other fish since this thread was started. It did kill a catfish and stole it's spot behind the powerheaded sponge filter, but have had no issues with any other fish. The wolf enjoys swimming with the Brycon, and the smaller of the 2 Brycon is significantly smaller then the wolf.

I have seen what you're talking about with the Aimara putting itself between me/siphon and the rays. The wolf acts like a gaurd dog for the rays. The wolf seems very protective of the rays.

Can't wait till the lil bugger is big enough to hold it's own in the big tank with the adult rays...... I'm sure the wolf will eventually butcher everything in the tank, then everything in the house. Probobly kill me in my sleep. But untill that happens, I'm gonna continue to enjoy watching the wolf interact with other fish.

MINE ACTUALLY KILLED OFF MY ENTIRE FAMILY LAST NIGHT!! BE VERY CAREFULL!!

 

[Anderman]

Don't see anything on the internet about VZ aimara being illegal to export. Do you have any links stating this as I read..Only the Venezuelan/Colombian example is readily available as export form other locations is now illegal. All I can say I am raising mine from a small size and anything that I accomplish with this Aimara will come from me! If you read my Aimara thread you would have seen...."YES" Just for the fun of it I tried to Cohab my Aimara with the rays and it lasted 3 minutes. I guess mine is more aggressive then the ones on this board. I didn't buy it to cohab but thought I would try it out and see how aggressive it was and found out nothing would last a 5 minutes with my Aimara! Bought it to be a solo predator and I am going to keep it that way! Congrats on the people cohabiting them but I never intended to do it. If any of you plan on breeding rays or having more pups with their Aimara then be prepared to either move your pregnant ray or Aimara as there will be casualties! My black wolf attacked and killed 2 pups and almost killed another one and that was with them being pulled out within 10 minutes of birth! I can just imagine what the Aimara would have done!
Happy cohabiting!