ALL ABOUT BREEDING FEEDERS

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scottswald;4072788; said:
yeah, thats what i was trying to say....

its because i struggle to estimate how many/much feeders to put in for a fish my siize...


just keep the feeders in a separate tank throw them into your monster tank as often as you think is enough for your fish, cuz dumping 40 feeders at once only messes up the water and its no fun to have ur fish hunt when ur not there lol
 
Sorry this thread is a little old, but I just had a question for the op. Would a 20gallon long tank work with a divider dividing about 1/4 section of the tank for the fry to go in? I figure if they're really small they don't need a ton of room, and i know half and half (10g) is a little small for the convicts.
 
Hybrid,

Have you tried cutting a wax worm into 4-8 pieces for feeding fry? With my convicts, 2-8mm wrigglers would actually drag around the chunks. They break down into perfectly sized filaments, and are full of fats and protein. (Read - a bit messy) What didn't get attacked, the parents would chew and spit, or just eat - provided the fry were in a cloud of food.

I always started my fry by shaking a small amount of flake in a water bottle with tank water, and pouring it into a 1/2" cpvc water line approximately 2ft long directly in the fry group. You then just pour a bit more tank water into the pipe slowly, and it puts a cloud of food directly onto the fry. (It also keeps the parents happy - they attack the pipe) I've never fed my fry brine shrimp, so I can't compare growth rates there.


To anyone with picky fish - Let the parents raise a brood to an inch or so. My convicts were initially so picky about food I could drop in a different brand, and they'd sit at the glass looking at me like I'd worn a GWAR t-shirt to church. The moment their young started attacking anything and everything in the tank - they dropped pretenses and started eating like they lived for it. Competition brings out the best in them.


vnzlnboardguy;3945202; said:
I am planning on breeding some convicts. I have never raised any fish, but I feel that the fry shouldn't be in a tank with the filter. My question is can I have a filter running with new fry in the tank? I think the answer is no but I'm not sure.

It's more a question of preference. In a tank where the filter intake is a few inches from the bottom, you might not have issues. Convicts are serious about parenting - they'll keep their fry in tight groups at the bottom. If you're worried - take a spare filter sponge/pad, and tie/zip tie it to the intake. Out of several spawns, I've rarely found any fry on the intake or stuck to the media. (This is in a well planted/decorated 29 with plenty of areas away from the intake - a bare 5-10gal wouldn't work out as well.)

n0n4m3;3960327; said:
Would I be able to raise convicts in simple plastic containers. Just bare containers, no sand, plants or would they need hiding places to lay eggs?

Knowing convicts - they'll probably breed just to overstock the containers and piss you off. :grinno: A fish safe ceramic saucer/pot/rock/decoration with a tunnel is the most they'll require. In a bare tank, you might want to place them in an area they won't see much movement - the lack of cover will keep them anxious.

sashimimaster;4053270; said:
Can I just remove the eggs from the parents before they're hatched and into a grow out tank? It would be a lot easier than trying to suck up babies.

A cycled 5-10 gallon tank with a spongefilter, parent tank water, and gentle water movement would likely turn out just fine. If you want to remove the spawn area, consider keeping several identical pots/saucers/etc. That way you can put a fresh one back in the same place to maintain their territory.

If you screw up - They'll quickly provide you with a new batch to try out.


scottswald;4072093; said:
i only have 1 small tank spare, a 22.5 gallon. i would really like to do convict cichlids but i was wondering what i would do with just the 1 tank?

also, do you guys put the correct amount in for 1 serving or is it possible to put more in and let them pick them off 1 by 1 as they want?

The 22.5 will get crowded quickly. To get a breeding pair, you might need to start with a female and 2-3 slightly larger males to encourage competition. Once they're paired and defending a spawn, consider feeding the other males to your predators. The young will grow slowly in the crowded tank, and you'll need to do more water changes to maintain water quality - but they'll still grow out.

Throwing in a few more than the normal feeders isn't out of the question for either if you stay on top of water changes/tank cleanings. Convicts are survivors. Odds are you'll accidentally toss in a 1" male and female and wind up wondering why in the world your pirahna are cowering in a corner while their dinner spawns on the other side. :ROFL:


Sorry for the Wall o' Text. :nilly:
 
BenSow;4377325; said:
Actually, I found that pond raised guppies do not eat their babies...

Most anything with huge spaces seems to defy typical aquarium keeping logic.

Quite a few of the people with the truly rediculous monster tanks - 5000+ gallons seem to find their "ultra aggressive" fish turn into passive family raisers when they have half the room to defend their family nature intended.

Choking habitat, starvation, etc - almost always lead to the cessation of breeding / eating of young.

It's a great measure of habitat. Take it as a compliment. ^_^ In nearly every other aquarium guppies are kept - the fry are screwed without special considerations.

Grats. ^_^ :headbang2
 
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