All my catfish are going to die.

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Sorry to hear that ma. That really sucks. At least your other cats are back to normal though.


On the high ammonia note. Theres no way a level of 0.025ppm caused an ammonia burn. Theres always gonna be some ammonia in the water due to there messy ness. No matter what kind of filtration you have. Even in the wild theres some level of ammonia in the water.
 
redtailcatfreak;5073524; said:
Sorry to hear that ma. That really sucks. At least your other cats are back to normal though.


On the high ammonia note. Theres no way a level of 0.025ppm caused an ammonia burn. Theres always gonna be some ammonia in the water due to there messy ness. No matter what kind of filtration you have. Even in the wild theres some level of ammonia in the water.


Yeah definately not ammo burn, as has been said several times by Mike.

Apparently everyone else knows that it is ammonia burn, but have yet to explain how such a small ammonia level for a very brief period of time can cause a fishes entire tail to melt away. When 5 catfish take a dump during the same day, something would be wrong if you don't see a tiny ammonia spike. That is why he said the level fluctuates between 0 and ~0.25, but that must have been to complicated to understand for some people.



And to Arofan, What is the problem? Mike drove 5 hours round trip to pick up a fish and give it a good home. Explain to me why you think he would do this if he didn't care about it? To be completely honest, he could have taken the catfish home and eaten the damn thing if he wanted too. You lost your ability to control where it was and what tank it was in when you took his money. He already said it was going to be in a 300, but decided it was a better fit in his 220. Get over yourself.

He put it in a tank with 1 more fish than he said, and 80 fewer gallons of water. The marble that you claim to be devastating and the cause of the problems is all of 13-14 inches long. I must have missed the part where it was necessary to give the seller your plans for the entire life of the fish. It would be a different story if you gave it to him, but you didn't.

And who feeds a fish before they move it?
 
arowfan;5070711; said:
wow, first off I ask you what tank he was going in and you give me a 8x2x2 dimention-then, "whoops I forgot" he is in my 6x2x2-get your story straight buddy.
Then I ask you what cats there are and you tell me 3-then you "forgot" about the marble...And yes, I said it before, and will say it again, the tank you have with that stock is too small-I guess there's nothing wrong with this picture. How many more bottom fish do you think you can cram in there?
How many times do I have to post this here that the cat already had the curl when I bought it, I know what gill curl comes from, and it didn't come from me.
I'm admitted that I fed the fish 3-4 chunks of tilapia (4 hrs prior to grabbing him) so I dont know how you can say I'm blaming others...I've never had any issues before when transporting fish short distances.
I'm done arguing-I'm glad that your fish are ok;
this has gone on for too long I agree, and I'm done.


BTW, the requirement in your ad stated that it had to go to a tank 180 gallons or larger. It was placed in a 220. You also said it was urgent to get rid of him. Sounds like you didn't have much leverage to dictate where he went anyway.
 
Apparently everyone else knows that it is ammonia burn, but have yet to explain how such a small ammonia level for a very brief period of time can cause a fishes entire tail to melt away.

The ammonia burn occurred during transportation ... its ammonia burn I've seen it enough to know what it looks like. Once the slime coats gone its all over ....
 
Mikeyy;5063840;5063840 said:
Saturday 4/16. I picked up an 18" RTC from arofan on MFK. I brought him home in a cooler with no heat. The drive was roughly 2 hours. I got the fish home, and notices he had thrown up a previous meal. I immediate switch him to a larger bin, and began drip acclimation into my 220gal.
(Like a complete idiot COMPLETE idiot... i DID NOT quarentine the fish i began acclimating him to my stocked 220.)

My 220 is a hold tank for the pond, i have in the very near future ( within a few weeks im picking it up) but regardless stock of 220

18" rtc
18" hybrid
12" marble catfish
2 x 10" RTC

^ over stocked yes. But i keep a very close eye on my parameters and I make damn sure a 70% WC is done at very least weekly.

regardless the catfish was put into the tank after acclimation and seemed fine

4/18 ( Monday ) I began to notice sores on the new addition. His fins looked freyed and he overall looked like ****. I notice very small red sores on the lip of my hybrid catfish.

4/18 (that night) I did a 60% WC, added stress coat / small amount of dissolved aqua salt / melafix. I moved every cat but the hybrid and new RTC into a 300 gal stock tank.

^ 4/18 prior to WC i checked the parameters which suprisingly tested 0ppm nitrite / .25< ppm ammonia.

4/19 (today) the catfish looks like the pictures below. I am absolutely freaking out. I moved the new addition to a 40 gallon breeder tank to treat as he looked the worse this morning. But now all my cats are begining to develop what it looks like are skin sores... and almost like popped blisters!... omfg

Please help in any way shape or form...
it's definitely bacterial infection ,a double dose of Maracyn tablets at the start and followed by the recommended dosage should bring you peace of mind in no time ,trust me that stuff is safe and affective .
 
Mikeyy;5064925;5064925 said:
Update: I lost the new introduced catfish sometime thru the night . luckily he was moved to a 40 breeder to he didnt spike the ammonia level in my 220.

All of my catfish were moved back to the 220. I did a 70% WC again last night, kicked temps up and added medication. What ever signs of disease they had are going away, there appetite is back in full swing, I am very happy with the results.

LESSON LEARNED: Qaurentine your fish, big or small. DO NOT be lazy.

I'm still baffled as to what the problem was but im more than happy to see it go

R.I.P.
18" RTC (Sherman)

Never thought i'd have to pull a dead catfish out of a tank.. was really depressing
sorry i did not realize that you had solved the prob before my first post good luck
 
taksan;5074779; said:
The ammonia burn occurred during transportation ... its ammonia burn I've seen it enough to know what it looks like. Once the slime coats gone its all over ....


Alright gotcha. I misunderstood what you were saying, as a few other people stated that it was ammonia in the tank itself that caused it. That is very well what could have been the problem.
 
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