Am I the only one?

[jaguartooth]

Sure, having kids is a choice,

but raisng them is a responsiblity.

You can't really separate the two.

 

[rallysman]

What's the big deal? If you don't want to have any children, don't have any. IMO, there are two obvious categories each with 2 sub-categories.

1. Those who should have children


T

I get tired of hearing about how I'm wrong. There's not really a problem, I just can't wrap my head around it.

 

[RedDevilDon2005]

levi, you are wrong............you should have kids..............you dont know what your missing.............more everyday sayings here. man i agree, i told this girl i work with i changed my mind and got a freakin half hour lecture about why kids are great.

 

[CosMoenTropic]

Its really simple and boils down to this...

Having kids is a choice that brings about responsibility

Like all responsibilities in life, you shouldn't take it if you cannot meet its demands for whatever reasons.

Nobody forces you to have kids. Its okay if you don't.. Im just pointing out reasons why people decide to have it.

Honesty, from reading your posts, some of you guys make it sound like having kids is the biggest scam of society. Its not. Its not something that gives you instant gratification. Its not protected sex. You do not get instant gratification without the responsibility. Its something that exists because its a fundamental part of life..



I know you are trying to be very generous on the world.. you dont want the world to become overpopulated.. great. But I can't help but wonder if it is the responsibility thing that is the decision tie breaker. If people could have sex, have kids, and not raise it, wouldn't we all choose to have kids--without a second thought?

Heres the thing. I think your friends who hate you for not having kids and for choosing not to.. I think they are jealous/feel that you do not understand why they choose to take on this responsibility. Some of them had kids but didnt expect the responsibility. Other expected the responsibility, and chose to do it anyway.. Why? See my first post.. These people feel that you do not understand their sacrifice.. Which is why they get angry at you when you just comes along and say--"screw this! I don't want kids".

Maybe they just feel that you do not understand them, the same way as you feel that they could not understand you.

When growing up and we started paying our own bills.. werent we always jelous of those kids who still live on their parents bank accounts... Life seem so easy for these other kids. But you come out of this being a better man, a better, stronger, more multi-dimensional person. This is how your friends feel.

Its okay that you decide that you dont want kids. Its okay. But the reasons I pointed out in previous posts is why people dont like it when you say "I dont want kids." It seems like you are taking the easy way out. Again I emphasize the word seems.

Once again.. If you don't want kids.. Its okay. You are a free man and you can make your own choices in life.. but I think we all knew that already didnt we?

 

[dantedobe]

Wow, that hurts. that's why we invented birth control, to prevent having unwanted kids. there's nothing quite as sad as the idea of an unwanted kid. nevermind 3 of them.

LOL

Edit: I discovered that post the same time as imcrystal.

I never said I didn't want them at the time I had them. You know the story, you meet someone, fall in love and OMG lets have kids what a great idea. Then they arrive and they are beautiful and you love them to bits. But if I had my life over I would not have them. (You can't miss what would never have been created) I bet there are tons of people all over the world who, knowing then what they know now would choose not to have their children. It's nothing against their children it's just to choose a different life. I hope that sounds like it sounded in my head!

 

[jcardona1]

my comments in red...

Its really simple and boils down to this...

Having kids is a choice that brings about responsibility Yes, i agree with this

Like all responsibilities in life, you shouldn't take it if you cannot meet its demands for whatever reasons.

Nobody forces you to have kids. Its okay if you don't.. Im just pointing out reasons why people decide to have it.

Honesty, from reading your posts, some of you guys make it sound like having kids is the biggest scam of society. Its not. Its not something that gives you instant gratification. Its not protected sex. You do not get instant gratification without the responsibility. Its something that exists because its a fundamental part of life.. Simply personal opinion



I know you are trying to be very generous on the world.. you dont want the world to become overpopulated.. great. But I can't help but wonder if it is the responsibility thing that is the decision tie breaker. If people could have sex, have kids, and not raise it, wouldn't we all choose to have kids--without a second thought? I doubt it. Sounds like your talking about some sort of baby factory. whats the point in having kids if youre not gonna raise them? this doesn't make any sense

Heres the thing. I think your friends who hate you for not having kids and for choosing not to.. I think they are jealous/feel that you do not understand why they choose to take on this responsibility I would say they are jealous because they are no longer able to do the things they used to be able to do when they didnt have kids, but thats just me

When we start paying our own bills.. werent we always jelous of those kids who still live on their parents bank accounts... Yes, but what does this have to do with having kids?

Its okay that you decide that you dont want kids. Its okay. But the reasons I pointed out in previous posts is why people dont like it when you say "I dont want kids." It seems like you are taking the easy way out. Again I emphasize the word seems. Youre misunderstanding. Its not about an "easy way out". Some people just DONT WANT KIDS. period. its has nothing to do with taking short cuts in life or finding the easiest route.

Once again.. If you don't want kids.. Its okay. You are a free man and you can make your own choices in life.. but I think we all knew that already didnt we

 

[Miguel]

I never said I didn't want them at the time I had them. You know the story, you meet someone, fall in love and OMG lets have kids what a great idea. Then they arrive and they are beautiful and you love them to bits. But if I had my life over I would not have them. (You can't miss what would never have been created) I bet there are tons of people all over the world who, knowing then what they know now would choose not to have their children. It's nothing against their children it's just to choose a different life. I hope that sounds like it sounded in my head!

If you love them to bits, as you say ( and I see no reason whatsoever not to believe ), then you cannot be serious in the remainder of your reasoning......

 

[RedDevilDon2005]

i agree ^

 

[rallysman]

Its really simple and boils down to this...

Having kids is a choice that brings about responsibility

Like all responsibilities in life, you shouldn't take it if you cannot meet its demands for whatever reasons.

Nobody forces you to have kids. Its okay if you don't.. Im just pointing out reasons why people decide to have it.

Honesty, from reading your posts, some of you guys make it sound like having kids is the biggest scam of society. Its not. Its not something that gives you instant gratification. Its not protected sex. You do not get instant gratification without the responsibility. Its something that exists because its a fundamental part of life..



I know you are trying to be very generous on the world.. you dont want the world to become overpopulated.. great. But I can't help but wonder if it is the responsibility thing that is the decision tie breaker. If people could have sex, have kids, and not raise it, wouldn't we all choose to have kids--without a second thought?

Heres the thing. I think your friends who hate you for not having kids and for choosing not to.. I think they are jealous/feel that you do not understand why they choose to take on this responsibility. Some of them had kids but didnt expect the responsibility. Other expected the responsibility, and chose to do it anyway.. Why? See my first post.. These people feel that you do not understand their sacrifice.. Which is why they get angry at you when you just comes along and say--"screw this! I don't want kids".

Maybe they just feel that you do not understand them, the same way as you feel that they could not understand you.

When growing up and we started paying our own bills.. werent we always jelous of those kids who still live on their parents bank accounts... Life seem so easy for these other kids. But you come out of this being a better man, a better, stronger, more multi-dimensional person. This is how your friends feel.

Its okay that you decide that you dont want kids. Its okay. But the reasons I pointed out in previous posts is why people dont like it when you say "I dont want kids." It seems like you are taking the easy way out. Again I emphasize the word seems.

Once again.. If you don't want kids.. Its okay. You are a free man and you can make your own choices in life.. but I think we all knew that already didnt we?

That's much more understandable and makes more sense than what was posted before.

Am I taking the easy way out? Yes.
It's much easier for me to not have them then it would be to have them and not want them.

 

[Red Devil]

That's much more understandable and makes more sense than what was posted before.

Am I taking the easy way out? Yes.
It's much easier for me to not have them than it would be to have them and not want them.

you cannot get more honesty then that..if someone does not WANT them why would they bring a child into the world.... they need to be wanted and loved... he is making the right decision for him..