Am I the only one?

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rallysman;2259995; said:
Am I taking the easy way out? Yes.
It's much easier for me to not have them then it would be to have them and not want them.

Nope, my friend. Because once you have them, the not wanting them is gone.
 
Miguel;2260012;2260012 said:
Nope, my friend. Because once you have them, the not wanting them is gone.
I'm sure this is true, even though i cant speak from experience. while i dont want kids, if it were to ever happen by "surprise" im sure all my beliefs will change.

but until then, no kids for me :)
 
Miguel;2260012; said:
Nope, my friend. Because once you have them, the not wanting them is gone.
LOL, you're still talking like I will.
Call me selfish, I won't disagree.
 
Miguel;2260012; said:
Nope, my friend. Because once you have them, the not wanting them is gone.

Having kids takes a leap of faith..

and it takes so much work to have everything work out positively.. both for the kids side and the parents side

Many people are not so lucky.. The act of raising kids turns out to be a disaster that hurts both side. I understand why people avoid it because so many things can go wrong. There is no guarantee.

You seem to be a good parent and have had positive experiences. Im glad things turned out well overall in the long run and the relationship is positive

In general, I think if you're going to have kids, try your hardest and do it right. Parents and the kids themselves can mess up the relationship so badly that it just turns tragic--in those cases, looking back, I would agree with them on not having the kid. But you cant predict the future so who knows. Its not something you can just do half-ass and expect positive results. The outcome is always a mixed bag, but it depends on how you view it.
 
Miguel;2259716; said:
I won't go deeper into this conversation, because this is above all, if talked about seriously and not as bravado, an issue of " self conscience" ( for lack of a better expression ), so I am not trying to convince anyone,.

with any due respect. it seems like you are.

just an observation from reading and posting and reading some more.

you like kids
you have lots of kids
rally doesnt like kids so much
rally doesnt want kids

but from what i've been reading. that doesnt sit well with you. It is gnawing at you. I dont see any kind of debate here really and i'm suprised this thread has gone so long.
its a personal decision. Not up for debate by other people. Only by one's self. thats it.
 
Nekojin;2260046; said:
with any due respect. it seems like you are.

just an observation from reading and posting and reading some more.

you like kids
you have lots of kids
rally doesnt like kids so much
rally doesnt want kids

what is there to debate??
You've got it figured out. This is the reason I made this thread.

People just can't fathom that someone really doesn't want kids. Maybe they're trying to learn from this as much as I am:)
 
Nekojin;2260046;2260046 said:
with any due respect. it seems like you are.

just an observation from reading and posting and reading some more.

you like kids
you have lots of kids
rally doesnt like kids so much
rally doesnt want kids

but from what i've been reading. that doesnt sit well with you. It is gnawing at you. I dont see any kind of debate here really and i'm suprised this thread has gone so long.
its a personal decision. Not up for debate by other people. Only by one's self. thats it.
case closed
 
if you ever do decide to have kids, just remember...
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Nekojin;2260046; said:
with any due respect. it seems like you are.

just an observation from reading and posting and reading some more.

you like kids
you have lots of kids
rally doesnt like kids so much
rally doesnt want kids

but from what i've been reading. that doesnt sit well with you. It is gnawing at you. I dont see any kind of debate here really and i'm suprised this thread has gone so long.
its a personal decision. Not up for debate by other people. Only by one's self. thats it.

You're wrong. I am not debating. Seriously. I respect other people'ss opinion. I am, we all are, conversing about an issue that was opened up for conversation by Levi.

So I really do not understand your intervention, nor do I see what it brings, sorry.

The issue is open, subject to different opinions. The OP has not objected to the way the conversation is going, si I really do not see your point..
 
Miguel;2260012; said:
Nope, my friend. Because once you have them, the not wanting them is gone.
thats true so much of the time.... but you cannot gamble or should not gamble your love about children... you can also resent them.... i love kids ..i wish i had a whole house full but you have to feel right about them..i believe that.. the desire and the wish and the pride has to be there... if it isn't there it would be sad for everyone...
 
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