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oh whoops forgot to post what i was originally going to say,

I actually peeled back the jaw of many many tetras and alot of them have either piranha or exo-like teeth (not on the outer brim but in their mouth).

for instance, when fish die at my lfs they let me keep them. the teeth of black skirt and dyed tetras actually look very piranha like only they are SO small that most people see the size of the fish and don't bother to look.

congo tetras also have noticeably similar teeth to exos only alot more, actually the most teeth ive seen in concentration on a small tetra. hence i posted an Exo Vs Congo thread earlier. looking through a magnifying glass on most ANY characin thats at least micro predatory and you will find this to be true.

if hes right about that being just a trick of the camera distance, then its nothing special. but i highly doubt it. the tinier the fish the less detail goes into their body parts and those are some DETAiLED teeth!


Heres a pic of congo tetra teeth. not really serving my case because its got alot less than the ones i looked at but pay extra close attention to the bottom teeth. they also look resemble pristobrycon denticulatus teeth.

Tetra Congo teeth close up2.jpg
 
Retuks;3463118; said:
Id hate to bring up an old post but the picture i have just laid my eyes upon compels me to do so...

Are you certain they are illegal in Hawaii??
and idno where any of you have been but that does NOT look like a blind cave tetra... for one, its got eyes. Blind cave tetras dont, they just bare sockets.

Tetra: what makes a tetra a tetra in general is the possession of that small fin between the dorsal fin and the tail. no clue what its called.

Characin: within the TETRA group, Characins are generally all the scaled, laterally compressed fish (skeletally structured in a near to vague diamond shape) bearing a swim bladder.

Ie. a Wolf fish is a tetra because it bares that fin i talked about. however it is not a characin because it bares no swim bladder, proper bone structure, or proper scales to fit the order of characins (class/phylum w.e. if im wrong).

ADD: after reviewing some pictures of hopilas, i can't tell if my statement above is consistent, however that is still the definition of Tetra. i am unable to explain this in the wolf's case however. unless i just can't see that fin. (adipose?)

yes,adipose fin.
for one,wolf fish do NOT have adipose fins.
second,they are characins,im sure.
third,so characins are under the tetra group and not the OTHER WAY around???
 
channarox;3463227; said:
yes,adipose fin.
for one,wolf fish do NOT have adipose fins.
second,they are characins,im sure.
third,so characins are under the tetra group and not the OTHER WAY around???

ya thats right.

but wait... then the wolf fish doesn't match either definition.
so what makes it a characin?
 
Retuks;3465038; said:
ya thats right.

but wait... then the wolf fish doesn't match either definition.
so what makes it a characin?

im sorry,but characins are NOT tetras,tetras are characins...
 
channarox;3465437; said:
im sorry,but characins are NOT tetras,tetras are characins...

we've established that, but what makes a wolf a characin?
 
So no one in Texas was willing to collect and ship these? Where exactly in Texas are they availible? Anywhere near San Antonio or Corpus? Im still interested.
 
big E;3467959; said:
So no one in Texas was willing to collect and ship these? Where exactly in Texas are they availible? Anywhere near San Antonio or Corpus? Im still interested.

they are as common as the next guy anywhere in southern texas in just about every ditch, canal, lake, and stream. unlike most predators they will hit bread so all you need is a trusty scoop net, a dollar loaf and your good to go.
 
where can you order mexican tetras though?
 
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