another drop eye concern

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like i was previously stating. you dont own one, so you wouldn't kno the difference in drop eye...

ill let someone else judge the pics. and of coures the big guy u posted has drop eye, hes over 15 yrs old. thats old man DE. DE has to start somewhere and the aro i posted has DE, not a minor case either. the one u posted jus has SEVERE DE.

i've owned aro's for so long, i can see even the slightest case of DE where it looks like it aint there, but i know it is.

i know the difference between DE, and apparently you dont. if you can post a pic or show me some video of an arowana over 30" that doesn't have DE, ill have some faith in your assumption.

ur information comes from nowhere, not personal experience, nothing. you read online, then post in this thread.

and mods please dont delete any post's in this thread. its a great thread with good points n views and never went off topic.
 
great debate. i feel like i've reached about the top of all of my general knowledge on aro's, so i won't try to force anything. people can read both our posts and form their own opinions.
 
X24;879600; said:
drop eye does slightly deminish the overall look of the arowana, but if i had the space i'd surely take an aro, DE or not.

but the fact is, from what i can understand the only wild aro you saw was in a tank (or no?) which would explain the drop eye. I've seen a few wild ones that are actually in the wild, and none of them have had drop eye.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7evIBlu3lA

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the first few pics i have found, none with DE.
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The pics don't really show much. First looks to be a green jardini, which seldom get DE. The second is of a relatively small silver and how do you know the opposite eye is not DE. As for the video the fish is too far away and moves to much to tell whether or no it has DE.

I'm with ethnics, I don't beleive DE only happens in aquariums.

Remember in the wild it is survival of the fittest. Drop eye would hinder an aro, which live on the brink of starvation anyway, from eating well and staying strong. In the wild week fish equals lunch for another.
 
HiGhTiMeZ;880088; said:
the 1st pic is a green asian aro Bderick67 ;)
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You right, just took a quick look did not count the rows of scales, my bad.
 
i don't believe it only happens in aquaria either, its just that it isn't natural. i'm sure there are a few cases where a wild species gets DE, because there are no aquarium only diseases, but from what i got ethnics was saying maybe its natural for all aro's to get drop eye, but how could that be natural if the greatest percentage of wild aros don't have drop eye. bderick, you said it yourself that the ones that get DE are probably going to die, which would lead me to believe that it isn't all that natural (or for a purpose) that they get DE. if the DE was natural and helped them in some way, wouldn't u see nearly all wild aro's having drop eye?
 
DE if anything will strengthen an aro of his lower surroundings in the wild... and you can't even find a pic of a wild aro without DE over 2ft, let alone find a bunch of wild aros with it...
 
X24;880149; said:
i don't believe it only happens in aquaria either, its just that it isn't natural. i'm sure there are a few cases where a wild species gets DE, because there are no aquarium only diseases, but from what i got ethnics was saying maybe its natural for all aro's to get drop eye, but how could that be natural if the greatest percentage of wild aros don't have drop eye. bderick, you said it yourself that the ones that get DE are probably going to die, which would lead me to believe that it isn't all that natural (or for a purpose) that they get DE. if the DE was natural and helped them in some way, wouldn't u see nearly all wild aro's having drop eye?
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Not sure what you are saying here. If it is not natural then it is caused by something artificial. If wild aros get it then how would that be? Personally I believe that DE is triggered by trauma to the head. I don't beleive all aquarium raised aros will have/get it and that not all wild silvers will not suffer from it.

ethnics;880224; said:
DE if anything will strengthen an aro of his lower surroundings in the wild... and you can't even find a pic of a wild aro without DE over 2ft, let alone find a bunch of wild aros with it...
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Maybe true but if 90% of its food source is from near or at the waters surface, this is not an asset. Personally I beleive that an aro has peripheral vision and can see above and below equally the same. The aros main focus is forward.
 
There seems to be some confusion....Its not the DE that bothers me,Its the fact that my aro is swimming slanted.I wouldnt mind the DE as much if my aro at least swam normaly.And now on top of it we have a handful of others who say they are prety sure their aro's DE makes it swim kinda funny.

I'm not posting this thread as a way of saying "oh damn look my aro has DE boo hoo" nor am I posting it with hopes to find a cure or whatever,as one member suggested.

What I wanted was to find why my aro is swimming funny,and if that could possibly be connected to DE or not at all.I had posted some more possibilities on page 2,they havnt been dismissed as of yet.Pretty much its the awkward swimming I want gone,and I'm wondering If I just need to wait it out,or if its likely permanent.....



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my aro swam fine with only 1 eye with DE, right after he developed it in his other eye, he swims kinda slanted. eats normal, looks healthy as an ox, but jus kinda swims with a slant. this has never happened before the 2nd eye of DE
 
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