Any ex FH keepers wanna input?

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Don't use the word mutated

Why? What do you think led to the expression of those traits? Mutations through hybridization and line-breeding. Same with fancy goldfish and dogs. Somebody noticed a mutation in the genes that either enhanced an existing trait or created a new one and then set about fixing it into a lineage. Doesn't change the species code much. Just adjusts what is expressed and how strongly it is expressed. But in the FH many different fish were used, so it's not just mutations that give FH their odd looks and color palates, it's also a grab bag of genepools and subsequent selective breeding. So instead of having something like a single mutated species, we have a mutated who-knows-what. That kind of genetic uncertainty, the not knowing how truly cut-and-paste a FH is, that's what keeps me away. If somebody asks me what this fish is, I would have to admit that I don't know and then have to explain that they are made of many other fish. That just reminds me of how they make hot dogs.



And a few pages back someone said that two animals capable of producing offspring being considered the same species? I was under the impression, taxonomically, that this was how a genus could be defined.
 
I like cichlids. Wild-caught, hybrid, big, small, thin, fat, etc. Keep whatever fish you want. Keeping a hybrid doesn't make you any less of a fish keeper. I have a Blood Red Parrot that just bred with my Cyano, so now I have about 30 hybrid fry that I plan on raising (and potentially selling, if I get any interest). What fish you keep does not determine your skill; how well you keep your fish does.

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Chrisplosion;4764793; said:
Who wouldn't want a fish like this?

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are you kidding?

Id rather have a cat turd in a bowl than that hideous looking thing.

I really dont understand the whole fascination with Koks that some of you have.
 
VRWC;4764983; said:
are you kidding?

Id rather have a cat turd in a bowl than that hideous looking thing.

I really dont understand the whole fascination with Koks that some of you have.

You would rather keep cat feces than a cichlid hybrid? I think you need to get your priorities straight, man. :ROFL:

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The point of flowerhorns and other "man made" fish is to selectively enhance the traits that some people find desirable.

Lots of people like trimacs, red devils and other CA cichlids because they're colorful, aggressive and develop bumps on their heads...flowerhorns just take it to the next level: more color, more aggression and bigger bumps.

As JD said, to each his own. I find bubble eye goldfish to be strange and not aesthetically pleasing. Lots of people would argue otherwise.

Matt

Chrisplosion;4764793; said:
Who wouldn't want a fish like this?
 
Chrisplosion;4764793;4764793 said:
Who wouldn't want a fish like this?

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ME! I would pass on this fish every single time! I know that many would pay top dollar for it, but I'd rather spend the cash on something else. There are some really nice FH that I wouldn't mind having but this guy is not on the list.
 
Chrisplosion;4764906; said:
This is what I personally like in a flowerhorn, red and white with a nice size kok.

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My GOD! That flowerhorn its awesome :WHOA:

dogofwar;4765123; said:
The point of flowerhorns and other "man made" fish is to selectively enhance the traits that some people find desirable.

Lots of people like trimacs, red devils and other CA cichlids because they're colorful, aggressive and develop bumps on their heads...flowerhorns just take it to the next level: more color, more aggression and bigger bumps.

As JD said, to each his own. I find bubble eye goldfish to be strange and not aesthetically pleasing. Lots of people would argue otherwise.

Matt


Totally agree!
 
ibz_rg;4765113; said:
You would rather keep cat feces than a cichlid hybrid? I think you need to get your priorities straight, man. :ROFL:

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Flowerhorns are not cichlids. They are hybrids.

Some people are very against them. I don't really care if people keep them or not. To each there own. They can not be considered cichlids though.
 
Gruff Master;4765435; said:
ME! I would pass on this fish every single time! I know that many would pay top dollar for it, but I'd rather spend the cash on something else. There are some really nice FH that I wouldn't mind having but this guy is not on the list.

I gotta go with this! That's way over the top disfigurement, right up there with gold chrome on a caddi!
 
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