anybody selling p 14 or leo pups?????

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Nic;1186506; said:
hold off on the caps lock bro.... 2100 is the going rate they will never be cheap again... time for everybody to suck it up ad accept it....

Probably for the better. I would just plan on spending 2k p14, if it's cheaper than take it as getting a good deal or being lucky. Honestly I think they'll keep going up. Mike is keeping alot of his females he produces I think as a couple people said. That's the only thing that's discouraging right now as alot of people want pairs or rather have female for obvious reasons(from what I've gathered) and they seem unobtainable unless Mike runs into a surplus. Sucks that they're not even that obtainable if you got the 2k to spend.
 
At this point I am keeping all the female P14 I can get my hands on, I have 3 males and just want to stock up on females for myself. As for price I don't see P14 prices coming down for quite some time, they have tripled in price from breeders in europe in the last 12 months and will most likely even go alittle higher. How much higher not sure in the US the price is crazy and most people arent willing to dump $2500 for a P14 pup at the moment. It will most likely be 6-12 months before I am breeding any P14 and I don't plan on selling them above the 2000 dollar price, I still want to be resaonable and attract the buyers with decent prices. You also have to understand P14 are in very high demand right now and are the ray of choice for many buyers hence the crazy high prices. In two years we might see the price drop or unless I can breed alot of them but until then expect them to just get more expensive. Just alittle info I have been offered some crazy prices for my trio of galaxy p14 and turned them all down over 7000ea and would not even consider selling them. Mike
 
csx4236;1186804; said:
At this point I am keeping all the female P14 I can get my hands on, I have 3 males and just want to stock up on females for myself. As for price I don't see P14 prices coming down for quite some time, they have tripled in price from breeders in europe in the last 12 months and will most likely even go alittle higher. How much higher not sure in the US the price is crazy and most people arent willing to dump $2500 for a P14 pup at the moment. It will most likely be 6-12 months before I am breeding any P14 and I don't plan on selling them above the 2000 dollar price, I still want to be resaonable and attract the buyers with decent prices. You also have to understand P14 are in very high demand right now and are the ray of choice for many buyers hence the crazy high prices. In two years we might see the price drop or unless I can breed alot of them but until then expect them to just get more expensive. Just alittle info I have been offered some crazy prices for my trio of galaxy p14 and turned them all down over 7000ea and would not even consider selling them. Mike

well..., damn mike looks like everything is going well. You have a nice bunch of rays that will make you very proud soon. How many p14's do you have at the moment??? will it take 6-12 months just because they are still smaller???...., or are they all ready breeding?? cant wait till you have them for sale..... are you going to chip them???
 
jdepasqu2;1186835; said:
well..., damn mike looks like everything is going well. You have a nice bunch of rays that will make you very proud soon. How many p14's do you have at the moment??? will it take 6-12 months just because they are still smaller???...., or are they all ready breeding?? cant wait till you have them for sale..... are you going to chip them???

We have 8 P14's in total, A few of them are mature enough to breed and were just waiting for some action. The rest are all still small and will take some time to mature. At the moment I do not plan on chipping the pups we sell, We will be chipping our own stock and the pups we plan on keeping so that there is no bad breeding going on.
 
csx4236;1186854; said:
We have 8 P14's in total, A few of them are mature enough to breed and were just waiting for some action. The rest are all still small and will take some time to mature. At the moment I do not plan on chipping the pups we sell, We will be chipping our own stock and the pups we plan on keeping so that there is no bad breeding going on.

Well I wish you the best of luck....., for everyone's sake....\
How hard is it to chip rays and how much should someone look to spend on something like that...???
 
stingrayguy;1186717; said:
The price will go down! I know it. I just sold my male p-14 for 1600.. then two weeks later the going rate is 2100?? its that there is none for sale. As soon as frank will lower his crazy prices.. I bet someone will bring some more in. just a matter of time. or Mike will have pups soon. And I bet they will be under 2k

Thanks Brad
Prices are high at the moment deu to the weak dollar at the moment. As a matter a fact prices are stabilizing at the moment and Only P14 and Leos have higher prices. But when you recaculate the price back to euros the price is still the same. I think 1,4 dollar is 1 dollar at the moment so do the math.As soonas 1 euro is 1 dollar again rays will be cheap again ( at least cheaper)
Regards
Frank
 
THE DOLLAR DOES SUCK NOW......
PROBABLY WONT CHANGE FOR A WHILE EITHER CUS OF YOU KNOW WHO DE-VALUE-ING IT WITH HIS HIDDEN AGENDA....
 
"Thanks Brad
Prices are high at the moment deu to the weak dollar at the moment. As a matter a fact prices are stabilizing at the moment and Only P14 and Leos have higher prices. But when you recaculate the price back to euros the price is still the same. I think 1,4 dollar is 1 dollar at the moment so do the math.As soonas 1 euro is 1 dollar again rays will be cheap again ( at least cheaper)
Regards
Frank"

Makes perfect sense now. I was quoted 1250 euro from a source coming from Frank. Obviously with todays rates that is $1763, without shipping across the pond. So, as Frank said, when the Euro and USD and 1 to 1, the same 1250 euro price would only be $1250 USD, sounds better already doesnt it guys!!
 
nickdog98;1187447; said:
"Thanks Brad
Prices are high at the moment deu to the weak dollar at the moment. As a matter a fact prices are stabilizing at the moment and Only P14 and Leos have higher prices. But when you recaculate the price back to euros the price is still the same. I think 1,4 dollar is 1 dollar at the moment so do the math.As soonas 1 euro is 1 dollar again rays will be cheap again ( at least cheaper)
Regards
Frank"

Makes perfect sense now. I was quoted 1250 euro from a source coming from Frank. Obviously with todays rates that is $1763, without shipping across the pond. So, as Frank said, when the Euro and USD and 1 to 1, the same 1250 euro price would only be $1250 USD, sounds better already doesnt it guys!!

1250 euro for what type of ray?
 
Now that what im talkin bout...... 1250 is way more reasonable.....

Cant wait till the dollar gets back to where it was....
 
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