Are aisian aros really illegal?

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Bderick67;4160356; said:
If that were the case and you could have them in the US, would this thread even exist?

Exactly. Thank you. The idiocy runs thick around here it seems.
 
Okay then why do we not see Scleropages macrocephalus, Scleropages legendrei, or Scleropages aureus sold in the United States?
 
A quote from Oddball in a similar type thread from a couple years back

Did you hear the Asian Aros are legal????????

Not true. ESA lists the reclassification names as synonyms for S. formosus. No matter the color, body shape, or scale patterning, all asian aros remain illegal to import, sell, transport, or possess in the US.
 
Bderick67;4160433; said:
Okay then why do we not see Scleropages macrocephalus, Scleropages legendrei, or Scleropages aureus sold in the United States?

Because the Endangered Species Act doesn't recognize this informal renaming of supposed variants of S. formosus. These are all considered to be S. formosus in the written law.
 
Even though many states do not list asian aros on their restricted lists, the fact remains that this species is prohibited from import according to the Lacey Act's protection of CITES appendix 1 species within the US and it's territories and the Endangered Species Act. These federal laws encompass all states and territories of the US.
Until the US federal laws can be rewritten to allow the import of farm-bred and chipped aros, they'll remain illegal in the US even as they're captive numbers continue to increase through importation in other countries around the globe.
 
Oddball;4160542; said:
Even though many states do not list asian aros on their restricted lists, the fact remains that this species is prohibited from import according to the Lacey Act's protection of CITES appendix 1 species within the US and it's territories and the Endangered Species Act. These federal laws encompass all states and territories of the US.
Until the US federal laws can be rewritten to allow the import of farm-bred and chipped aros, they'll remain illegal in the US even as they're captive numbers continue to increase through importation in other countries around the globe.


Well put. Federal trumps state everytime.
 
Zoodiver;4162033; said:
Well put. Federal trumps state everytime.
if zoo's and public aquariums start breeding them in the usa then will we be able to own them? why don't zoo's and public aquariums do that for us and the people of the USA.? since you work there why dont you look into for us please also money and proceeds could go into making things better and raise more money for the cause!!!
 
Blackwitmoney;4163112; said:
if zoo's and public aquariums start breeding them in the usa then will we be able to own them? why don't zoo's and public aquariums do that for us and the people of the USA.? since you work there why dont you look into for us please also money and proceeds could go into making things better and raise more money for the cause!!!


Nope, places that have them now (to the best of my knowledge) are all USFW confiscations. I don't know of an aquarium or zoo that has imported them specifically for display. Most use the current stock in the US and build areas for them. I know that was the case while I was in Dallas. All of ours were black market grabs.

And even if some place were to breed them, they all still fall under the Lacey Act - and the public can't have them. It's not just importing them that is banned, it's private ownership as well. Think of it in non-fish terms and it will make more sense. Like having a captive bred bald eagle or rhino from a zoo wouldn't be legal for your average Joe.
 
ok, thanks everyone. even if they were legal, i wouldn't ever get any, they're wayy too expensive. i was just curious, as the whole thing didn't make sense to me at first.
 
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