Are aisian aros really illegal?

[philhawk]

and prices and there legal status will remain as is until proper wild surveys of wild population are done and a strong supervisory agency is created to oversee the fish farms.
i do believe that they will be legal during my lifetime.

 

[sincitydragon]

If the U.S government were to legalized Asian Arowana's in the U.S., then everyone would eventually breed them. This will cause the price to drop, not right away but eventually it will. Asian aro's will cost the same as Jardini's and Silver's and everyone will be able to get one. That's good for the fish itself and the hobby. But I don't see the breeders in Asia supporting the legalization of Asian Arowana's in the U.S. They would loose too much money...remember, the bottom line is the most important thing to the breeders.

 

[Oddball]

Asian aros used to be legal. Once banned, no one who already had legal asian aros stepped up to try and breed them. Probably because it wasn't profitable then since asian aros sold in lfs for $30 to $60 for 8-10 inchers. There's no reason to think that breeding will be widespread once asian aros are finally allowed back in private aquariums. There will probably be a few breeding the higher end aros but, probably not as many as you may think. Look at zebra plecs. There are a handful of people breeding and selling them but, not as many breeders as the market can bear since the prices have been slow in dropping. And this is a species that's much more profitable to breed since it demands much less living space and requires less food and fry-rearing space.

 

[deeboi]

so is it possible to get a "cites" permit and legally bring these , or have one legally? i'm thinking in comparison to being able to hunt endangered species and being able to get thru customs with the right certification??

 

[deeboi]

do you have a link? i heard a. aros where legal in the states, but that must have been a long time ago. and y did the laws then change?

Asian aros used to be legal. Once banned, no one who already had legal asian aros stepped up to try and breed them. Probably because it wasn't profitable then since asian aros sold in lfs for $30 to $60 for 8-10 inchers. There's no reason to think that breeding will be widespread once asian aros are finally allowed back in private aquariums. There will probably be a few breeding the higher end aros but, probably not as many as you may think. Look at zebra plecs. There are a handful of people breeding and selling them but, not as many breeders as the market can bear since the prices have been slow in dropping. And this is a species that's much more profitable to breed since it demands much less living space and requires less food and fry-rearing space.

 

[Bazinga]

dont you wish you lived up here in canada

 

[Gshock]

so is it possible to get a "cites" permit and legally bring these , or have one legally? i'm thinking in comparison to being able to hunt endangered species and being able to get thru customs with the right certification??

been asked many times already. It's possible, but its not going to happen unless you're a public aquarium, research facility, or some kind of educational research institution.

 

[Oddball]

There is no cites permit to be had. CITES is not a licensing agency. And, since the ban is a US federal law, there are no permits to be had by any other than research institutions. Even then, the permits require inspections of the holding facilities before the animals are permitted to be ordered. And, formal and informal inspections will be held at the discretion of the licensing agency. The permits are expensive and the inspection fees are charged to the license holder.

Forget about a link. Try reading the material in the sticky section of the arowana forum and the buy/sell forum. They've been there for years.

 

[iloveoscars702]

how are public aquariums able to keep em? the Shark Reef here in vegas has two RTG in their asian bio type tank.

 

[Oddball]

Public aquariums that employ degreed ichthyological/marine zoological scientists may become accredited as research facilities. They may also maintain confiscated specimens if awarded by the court (usually if there is/are staff members degreed in a related field).