Are we keeping our cichlids too warm!

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Mike - different brand of heater, according to this video it was a Cobalt Aquatics Neotherm heater that blew up in his ray sump.

 
Besides not seeing a point....... I completely stopped using a heater other then brief periods to encourage breeding when I had a friend boil all her fish when a heater blew up. The tank glass was so hot it couldn't be touched. Craziest thing. Not worth it. Especially when you keep specialty, hard to get stuff
 
Mike - different brand of heater, according to this video it was a Cobalt Aquatics Neotherm heater that blew up in his ray sump.

Oh ok, sorry @ryanseve
Mike - different brand of heater, according to this video it was a Cobalt Aquatics Neotherm heater that blew up in his ray sump.


Oh ok, sorry ryansmith83 ryansmith83
 
I use external digital thermostat for mine heaters. I case of malfunction of external digital thermostat, internal thermostat in heater is set 2°C higher and will stop heater before temperature rise dangerously high. I check temperature every day and I know that mine fish are able to survive 1 day without heating (22°C). Even explosion of heater shouldn't kill mine fish, because I have heater in external filter.
For oxygenation I use air pump backed with UPS.

Now I have only 1 heated tank. I try to save on the power bill, so in other tanks I have fish, that are OK without heating in aquarium (20°C +). Biggest problem for me is to find out, which temperature is OK for every specie. Most sites just copy temperature from each other.
Best is to google water temperatures in area of origin.
 
Question for duanes duanes as you live in panama, any idea about average freshwater temps in the country? I saw you posted the pic of the lake and stated that the water was warm. Trying to get my panamensis to breed, I set up a separate tank just for my pair, but want to know what would be best temperature wise. Currently have it set at 72. I'm thinking it might be a bit warmer than that where they are from? I have been trying to find info on google but only get ocean temps
 
Here in Panama in the lower altitudes the water temps are low 80s to high 70s, although night temps drop. I believe the water cascading from the mountains hold temps to those levels, because temps in the highlands are on the cool side.
Night time air temps often drop into the 50sF in the mountains.
The mountain stream below, in the highlands above Coronado was cold, maybe 50s, but warmed as it slowed in the plains.


My panamense spawned at temps in the high 70s, and here they live in slow moving streams, and oxbows so a little warmer may be the norm.


Although the lagoon in my previous post was warm, it was by no means hot (or even mid 80sF.
 
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Here in Panama in the lower altitudes the water temps are low 80s to high 70s, although night temps drop. I believe the water cascading from the mountains hold temps to those levels, because temps in the highlands are on the cool side.

Great, thanks for the info. Just what I was looking for. Nice pics too, as always. Panama looks very beautiful.
 
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That's a bit of an inherited misconception for even wild fish. It is true of wild Heckel and green discus, but field observers like Heiko Bleher report red/blue discus in pH up to 7.8.

Neutrino,

Did you have a reference for Bleher's observations, online or was it in one of his books?
 
Stanzzzz7 Stanzzzz7 what would you say the ideal temps for pearsei and heterospilus would be ?

Nice thread btw
 
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