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rvrrays;2871059; said:
David,

I am thrilled to see you on the board.

For the newer folks, David forgot more about rays this morning than most people know.

Colin

I agree.

Nice to see you on here again David. Get read, I am going to print it.
 
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So I guess those posts that say, "you can never add too much salt", which comes from some of our more prominent posters.............may not be the best advice.
 
David glad to have you back. You may want to look at Skynoch and Gumby79s bacteria thread if you have a moment!

The Canadians are killing the Xingus!
 
rudy;2871355; said:
David glad to have you back. You may want to look at Skynoch and Gumby79s bacteria thread if you have a moment!

The Canadians are killing the Xingus!

Those threads kinda prompted me to write this one :)
 
So is it safe to assume that this salting theory is just the opposite (but works on the same principle) as saltwater's hypo-salinity? By making the enviroment impossible for the disease to reproduce in it eventually dies off. And we as hobbyists do nothing more than cross our fingers and hope these conditions kill the disease before it kills our fish??

And like hypo-salinity should only be used as a last resort IF we can't find meds to remedy the problem? (assuming of course the problem is properly ID'd)

BUT IF we took proper care of our fish in the first place we wouldn't have to deal with any of this........

Am I on the right track here? Or am I still just as lost as I feel?
 
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Great read, I have always kept my tanks around 78 until I got into rays. So much mixed info on what you should and shouldn't do. I have always felt cooler water meant hardier fish. I keep my ray tanks around 80-82 so I did give in a little to the warmer water idea. I will have to defend some of us novice ray keepers when our babies do get sick and we over react. We may not know what kind of bacteria has affected our rays, but we do know that it is bacterial. Most people are not set up or have contacts to find out what kind of bacteria is affecting our stock. So we really have no choice but to treat it with something (right or wrong) or sit back and watch our rays get ate up and die. I realize prevention is the best option possible, but things do go wrong and we are limited as to what we can do at home. My marble pups developed disk rot and I am treating with Nitrofurazone at the bottles recommended dosages because I have no other means of helping them. So we come here to asked the veterans who have kept there share of rays and have ponds full of our dream rays. Then we get mixed answers from the veterans which confuses us even more. That is why I loved the KISS thread Nic posted because you can do too much too soon and you can over react and make the situation worse than it already is. This thread goes along with Nic's, keep it simple and don't over react. Replicate there native waters the best we can and let them be happy. The other thing I learned is to slow down on buying and selling rays, even with QT you always run a risk adding and removing rays. Buy the ones you want, acclimate them, then let them be. No one wants to kill a ray, but when you do, learn from it and move on.
 
DB junkie;2871650; said:
So is it safe to assume that this salting theory is just the opposite (but works on the same principle) as saltwater's hypo-salinity? By making the enviroment impossible for the disease to reproduce in it eventually dies off. And we as hobbyists do nothing more than cross our fingers and hope these conditions kill the disease before it kills our fish??

And like hypo-salinity should only be used as a last resort IF we can't find meds to remedy the problem? (assuming of course the problem is properly ID'd)

BUT IF we took proper care of our fish in the first place we wouldn't have to deal with any of this........

Am I on the right track here? Or am I still just as lost as I feel?

The salt theory is always an interesting one. Ive often wondered whether or not additional salt puts further stress on the rays system. Yes, salt does occur naturally in the wild but given the large rainfall and water displacement in the wild, rays really dont have that much contact with salt in the wild IMHO.
 
Absolutly wonderful and I agree 100%. This is my first time reading anything with such accuracy. I have done 50% W/C in all my tanks since I began keeping any Ray's, Cichla, and Catfish. I am exstatic to see I was right on track. I will be also taking your advise about the temperature in my larger tanks. Thank you for the information and expertise and wonderful insight. This makes me fill better about a few of my husbandry habit's.
 
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