Armatus everywhere!
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DB junkie;3313693; said:
Well spoken DB, especially the Hobby or $ statements. Personally I am
a fishkeeper not a balla.
DB junkie;3314038; said:
Well it was everywhere at one point. It's weird that the FS threads hasn't been bumpin. Only thing that has been bumpin are "Armatus drama thread".
Does anyone remember the weekly and sometimes daily updates of dead armatus when the last frenzy hit on the $50 gambles?
I would allmost be willing to bet a good amount of change that is the reason the sale threads are dieing out so quickly.
AND that would also explain why you can't even get the sellers to post recent pics.
AND that would explain why there is no new threads with people saying check out my new armatus.
Most people could not even handle the demands of 500 feeders being dumped into a tank all at once. Much less 500 very fragile baby payara. There's less than a 1% chance that any of these sellers had a tank set up and cycled to handle that bio load. And none of them to my knowledge were highly experienced in keeping juvie characins.
So i think that there is a huge amount of dead baby dream fish in these sellers trash cans at home.
I would allmost be willing to bet a good amount of change that is the reason the sale threads are dieing out so quickly.
AND that would also explain why you can't even get the sellers to post recent pics.
AND that would explain why there is no new threads with people saying check out my new armatus.
Most people could not even handle the demands of 500 feeders being dumped into a tank all at once. Much less 500 very fragile baby payara. There's less than a 1% chance that any of these sellers had a tank set up and cycled to handle that bio load. And none of them to my knowledge were highly experienced in keeping juvie characins.
So i think that there is a huge amount of dead baby dream fish in these sellers trash cans at home.
I have been looking for them for at least two years and asking around frequently all over Jersey
I'd pay 300 cash for a decent size armatus... no problem.
You keep stuff from people long enough, they pay if they really want it that bad.
You know how much it cost to run a business over here now, we are lucky that these guys stay in business to bring us fish. How many times do you walk in the lfs and leave with nothing and a smile cause it was a good time.
Don't bash these guys.
I'd pay 300 cash for a decent size armatus... no problem.
You keep stuff from people long enough, they pay if they really want it that bad.
You know how much it cost to run a business over here now, we are lucky that these guys stay in business to bring us fish. How many times do you walk in the lfs and leave with nothing and a smile cause it was a good time.
Don't bash these guys.
READ THE WHOLE POST!
To all the people who are posting, reading, and thinking at this moment.
First of all, I have been out of MFK for several days. I was on vacation, and yes I do need a break at least or anyone in this world.
I have to spend time with my family as well. Family first, this goes to everyone in my opinion not only to me.
Catalina Island, Disneyland (twice in 5 days!!!) and Balboa Island were my destination points. Love the time with my family. Specially when I can only spend so much with them with my toxic schedule and busy life.
Anyone wants some photos? To prove it? just joking...its family time. I have been on my own vacation on and off for 2 weeks with intervals. I get pm's, text messages and calls about fish. I try my best to answer them in the timely manner but when we are spending time with our family we try our best to be with them.
And just to make things clears as well if people did not get any reply via text messages or missed calls.. my phone was soaked wet by my son. I do not have any phone right now nor am I on a rush to get a new on. I am very tech-freak myself I bought a new LCD screen and will replace it when it arrives in the mail.
lets get back to this armatus fiasco... I did not even get to read the thread that was told to me on my subforum about the armatus. I never got to even post any comment or my side of the story.
I was out for 2 weeks on and off. I DID NOT HAVE ANY SHIPMENTS!!!
If this is still not clear.. I DID NOT BRING IN ANY FISH MEANING I DID NOT BRING ANY ARMATUS!!! .... let us be clear..with a smiling face..
I am greatly offended by the way people thought that I sold the whole batch to John. No I did not, because I never had any since last year.
let refresh last years scenario... (enjoy reading it)
here is the link...
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150092
I brought the fish, i was 80% sure it was armatus but i cannot guarantee since it was my first try on the fish. its not a black and white fish that can be said that it was an armatus or not. and what do i get... people jumped into conclusions. I don't mind and I really do not need to care about it. $50 for an armatus... was equated as fake armatus. maybe i should sell it at $250 to $500 so it can be the real armatus. no offense to anyone who jumped into conclusions. just need to explain things further.
this year is not the same as last year. every single year that passes by is different and the fish i get or other vendors are all different one way or the other. just look back about a little over a year... L25 was being sold for cheap and no one really wanted it and some sold it for less than cost. now it is banned you are even luck if you can get a 30cm/12 inch for less than 200 dollars.
for the $50 armatus... i sold hundreds but also tons of people backed out after people started to say on the post that it was fake. i wonder who should i blame for that. i don't hold grudges..life goes on. no need to think about silly things. but surely it was offending for me when the people i thought were my friends were the same people that chewed me up and spit me me out like useless gum.
my goal when i started is to provide the hobbyist with the most reasonable price on the fish they were buying nothing else. but surely i need to be compensated in some sort for my effort, time and money spent. the fish can cost $1, $5, $10, etc... but the DOAs, the shipping cost, customs, permits, water, electricity, gas, time, and investment. So if you see it being sold for $250 and you can't afford it then keep it simple..simply bump the thread if you like it or close your computer and go to sleep. no need to put hard feeling on the thread or flame anyone.
This forums is for every single hobbyist to enjoy and not to argue and get into fights about fish. This is a hobby and not a wrestling match. This is a passion and not a show off. And this is not about money it is what you love to do!
now can everyone shake their heads and take a cool shower and close this arguement.
For every single person who read this... YES I GIVE FREE FISH (NOT ONE BUT A LOT OF THEM) TO MY FRIENDS (WHO I KNEW MORE THAN JUST FISH) AND SOMETIMES IT MAKES ME FRUSTRATED TO SEE THAT THESE SAME PEOPLE ARE THE ONES WHO STABS ME AT THE BACK)
This is my last remark..i hope this clears the minds of the people who doubted me.
WHEN I GET SHIPMENTS I WILL POST THEM UNLESS IT WAS A SPECIAL ORDER. ANYONE CARE FOR 1,000 NEON TETRAS?
To all the people who are posting, reading, and thinking at this moment.
First of all, I have been out of MFK for several days. I was on vacation, and yes I do need a break at least or anyone in this world.
I have to spend time with my family as well. Family first, this goes to everyone in my opinion not only to me.
Catalina Island, Disneyland (twice in 5 days!!!) and Balboa Island were my destination points. Love the time with my family. Specially when I can only spend so much with them with my toxic schedule and busy life.
Anyone wants some photos? To prove it? just joking...its family time. I have been on my own vacation on and off for 2 weeks with intervals. I get pm's, text messages and calls about fish. I try my best to answer them in the timely manner but when we are spending time with our family we try our best to be with them.
And just to make things clears as well if people did not get any reply via text messages or missed calls.. my phone was soaked wet by my son. I do not have any phone right now nor am I on a rush to get a new on. I am very tech-freak myself I bought a new LCD screen and will replace it when it arrives in the mail.
lets get back to this armatus fiasco... I did not even get to read the thread that was told to me on my subforum about the armatus. I never got to even post any comment or my side of the story.
I was out for 2 weeks on and off. I DID NOT HAVE ANY SHIPMENTS!!!
If this is still not clear.. I DID NOT BRING IN ANY FISH MEANING I DID NOT BRING ANY ARMATUS!!! .... let us be clear..with a smiling face..
I am greatly offended by the way people thought that I sold the whole batch to John. No I did not, because I never had any since last year.
let refresh last years scenario... (enjoy reading it)
here is the link...
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150092
I brought the fish, i was 80% sure it was armatus but i cannot guarantee since it was my first try on the fish. its not a black and white fish that can be said that it was an armatus or not. and what do i get... people jumped into conclusions. I don't mind and I really do not need to care about it. $50 for an armatus... was equated as fake armatus. maybe i should sell it at $250 to $500 so it can be the real armatus.
no offense to anyone who jumped into conclusions. just need to explain things further.this year is not the same as last year. every single year that passes by is different and the fish i get or other vendors are all different one way or the other. just look back about a little over a year... L25 was being sold for cheap and no one really wanted it and some sold it for less than cost. now it is banned you are even luck if you can get a 30cm/12 inch for less than 200 dollars.
for the $50 armatus... i sold hundreds but also tons of people backed out after people started to say on the post that it was fake. i wonder who should i blame for that. i don't hold grudges..life goes on. no need to think about silly things. but surely it was offending for me when the people i thought were my friends were the same people that chewed me up and spit me me out like useless gum.
my goal when i started is to provide the hobbyist with the most reasonable price on the fish they were buying nothing else. but surely i need to be compensated in some sort for my effort, time and money spent. the fish can cost $1, $5, $10, etc... but the DOAs, the shipping cost, customs, permits, water, electricity, gas, time, and investment. So if you see it being sold for $250 and you can't afford it then keep it simple..simply bump the thread if you like it or close your computer and go to sleep. no need to put hard feeling on the thread or flame anyone.
This forums is for every single hobbyist to enjoy and not to argue and get into fights about fish. This is a hobby and not a wrestling match. This is a passion and not a show off. And this is not about money it is what you love to do!
now can everyone shake their heads and take a cool shower and close this arguement.
For every single person who read this... YES I GIVE FREE FISH (NOT ONE BUT A LOT OF THEM) TO MY FRIENDS (WHO I KNEW MORE THAN JUST FISH) AND SOMETIMES IT MAKES ME FRUSTRATED TO SEE THAT THESE SAME PEOPLE ARE THE ONES WHO STABS ME AT THE BACK)
This is my last remark..i hope this clears the minds of the people who doubted me.
WHEN I GET SHIPMENTS I WILL POST THEM UNLESS IT WAS A SPECIAL ORDER. ANYONE CARE FOR 1,000 NEON TETRAS?
here are some photos..no faces... just to prove that i was on vacation!
the last picture is from balboa island...
the last picture is from balboa island...
