Armatus ID? Still Black (Hydrolycus wallacei)

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Why don't you take some of that knowledge you obviously possess and contribute it? I'm sure that you absolutely have the ability to add cogent points in this discussion, but you almost never do. I'd have not said a damn thing to you had you not decided to roll up here and do that. What were you hoping to accomplish with your classic straw man?
I already did 5 months ago. Just don't feel like beating the dead horse

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/threads/black-armatus.609842/
 
Debate is a great thing and the life blood of forums like this...
I'm with you on that! That's the reason why I had to bring up the inconsistency when the two different fish were ID as wallacei. That's not pushing the envelop. It's desperate!
 
I'm with you on that! That's the reason why I had to bring up the inconsistency when the two different fish were ID as wallacei. That's not pushing the envelop. It's desperate!

Again, even if the other fish was a scomb, so what? These little thought experiments have yielded results before, but I've had quite a few duds also. Having duds or being wrong about an idea doesn't mean that I'm not educated on these subjects, it means that I'm willing to think about things.

Even if I was wrong about the other fish, does that automatically discredit all the times I've been right? And I have been right quite often.

Being "wrong" every now and then doesn't discredit you in the real world, and indeed, in science is considered normal.

I still don't understand just what the hell your point was in doing that. It's not like it discredits me.
 
Again, even if the other fish was a scomb, so what? These little thought experiments have yielded results before, but I've had quite a few duds also. Having duds or being wrong about an idea doesn't mean that I'm not educated on these subjects, it means that I'm willing to think about things.

Even if I was wrong about the other fish, does that automatically discredit all the times I've been right? And I have been right quite often.

Being "wrong" every now and then doesn't discredit you in the real world, and indeed, in science is considered normal.

I still don't understand just what the hell your point was in doing that. It's not like it discredits me.
No, I did not discredit you. I just pointed out why I or "we" was/were skeptical, but I have no control on how you feel.

That question is better for you to answer. If you go with the article to justify your "hypothesis" then it would throw the last picture of the live one you posted in post #21 out of the window. Also, take a look at the OP avatar? Do those fangs look like wallacei to you?
 
I thought it was around that size at first. I put a tape to the glass tonight and its no where close to 14" Its not even 10" yet. I have never been very good at guessing the size of a fish.
Don't guess. Take a picture of it next to the tape so we can have a better idea on the size, and perhaps, better ID on the fish
 
No, I did not discredit you. I just pointed out why I or "we" was/were skeptical, but I have no control on how you feel.

You and I have butted heads quite a few times before, and I'm really beginning to wonder if there's not a communications barrier between us. What you posted reads like an attempt to start a fight, but if all your intention was was to point out why you were skeptical, then I apologize.


That question is better for you to answer. If you go with the article to justify your "hypothesis" then it would throw the last picture of the live one you posted in post #21 out of the window. Also, take a look at the OP avatar? Do those fangs look like wallacei to you?

As for the fins, the black color likely comes from melanin. The fish in #21 is backlit, and sunlight shining through the fins could lighten the color, or at least that's my experience with fishing. Please do note that the pectoral fin, the only one not illumunated, is black. Can anyone else offer input on this?

As for the fangs, I'll concede the point that I'm not sure. I am sure, however, that they don't really look like army teeth to me.
 
You and I have butted heads quite a few times before, and I'm really beginning to wonder if there's not a communications barrier between us. What you posted reads like an attempt to start a fight, but if all your intention was was to point out why you were skeptical, then I apologize.
I apologize as well. There's no barrier, but it's hard to tell or express feeling through typing. We're all good!
 
After seeing that black and white pic doesn't the size of the pectoral fins or the deep belly or the short face all look way different? I feel like I'm loosing my mind......lol

They look to me like a Scomb mixed with a Cynopotomus........
 
After seeing that black and white pic doesn't the size of the pectoral fins or the deep belly or the short face all look way different? I feel like I'm loosing my mind......lol

They look to me like a Scomb mixed with a Cynopotomus........
Go watch your fish, Al lol. It will calm your nerve down lol
 
Scombynopotamus lol
 
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