Asian Arowana Again

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milkman407;2146898; said:
there supose to be endangered in the wild, but all the asians being sold are farm raised... so theres honestly no reason for them to be illegal.
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I understand. Unlike a polar bear, bald eagle, or tiger, asian arowana's populations could easily be restored with some captive breeding and selective introductions back into the wild. Maybe I am making it more simple that it really is, but I think that if they were made legal with some restrictions that it would help increase their population numbers. If they were legal we would see farms here in the states and importers would import them here as well. I think it would be great for the breed.
 
The general idea is to have a healthy stable representation of the species in the wild (this ends the endangered label). Higher level fisheries studies have had some problems with the viablity stocking captive bred fish into wild populations (captive bred salmon and steelhead here in California). I'm not going to get to involved with it however its a bit more difficult than the idea of stock captive bred fish and your done. The captive fish have got to adjust to wild conditions that their not used to. This makes preserving existing wild population more valuable.
 
Especially when your dealing with a few fry that costs a small fortune!
 
I agree with the Save the Arowana site and that some of the money made from CITES permits should go back to conserving wild arowanas. This meaning if your buying farm bred fish your also protecting wild populations and working towards delisting the species.
 
*sigh* Even if they got legalized in the US, I'm sure California would be last on the list. :(
 
People here think that these farms are breeding aros to bring them back get a grip on life they are doing it to make a living, look what countries are the main breeders of these fish, if they were made legal in the us it would increase the demand and there would be more farms trying to breed them(discus for example)it would be a good thing.These farms are not releasing these fish in the wild .For example st's are closer to extinction then are aros and no one is jumping up and down about them.

For those who say will it will increase people trying to illegally harvest them from the wild ,no matter what you do that will never stop it ex,gorillas,elephants,rhinos,zebra plecos.
 
The farms have created a stable population in captivity and are taking a lot of pressure off wild population due to less or no harvesting from the wild. These are the things that have to happen before their legalized here in the states. If money from CITES permits went to preserve 1/4 mile to 2 mile stretch of river as a wild arowana haven/ refuge or to having fishing regulation were it is a no keep river for arowanas (like here in California with spring salmon and steelhead fisheries). Their populations would recover naturally without having to worry about restocking captive fish.
 
Lee 1 what is a st's?
 
They do not restock natural habitats with farm raise aros unless they are unwanted and released my hobbyist and i do not care how many farm bred aros are out there their are still going to be illegal collecting of these animals.

STs are datnoid pulchers (widebar dats)
 
That is an acurate statement, however farm bred Arowanas do take some of the collecting pressure off wild fisheries and is a step in a good direction for Asian Arowana fisheries managment. There are restriction on certain species here in California regarding keeping large breeding white sturgeon (that isn't allowed), or keeping late run Chinnook salmon (that isn't allowed) and people who keep more that their daily legal limits. These situations happen every year and should be expected to continue including with wild Asia Arowanas. However preparing for this kind of situation is a step towards limiting these occurances and sustainable management of Asian Arowanas in the wild.
How much bigger do S. leichardti grow to than jardini in captivety and do leich. grow larger than Asian Arowanas in captivety.
 
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