Asian Arowana Again

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I think if money from government or CITES permits goes back towards wild Asian Arowana fisheries management they will be legalized in the USA and even California. This may even create fisheries management jobs, imagine being paid to look after and maintaining a wild Asian Arowana fishery. Asian arowana's 24/7 could be cool.
 
I wish we could have them here and the government would let people have permits but I doubt that happens.There is no reason we should not have asian arowanas if they are farm raised.
 
Legalization will happen however it would happen faster if there was active conservation of the varieties of asian arowana species that only come from one or a couple systems. Such as the red (one river to my knowledge) or the xback that comes from only one or two river systems (to my knowledge). Once this is done I think legalization will happen however with the success of Arowana farms may happen sooner.
 
I also keep reptiles and CITES banned importation of most all of Madagascar chameleon species in 1995 due to terrible importation and management of these species as a resource. However in 2000 some reptile farms in Southeast Asia were established and with special CITES export permits to begin reptile farming of these nonlegal species. Earlier this year I purchased my first male Parsons chameleon (that cost about the same as a young red arowana) and I'm going to purchase a female next year and after about 14 years of waiting to own a Parsons with paper work that I can totally endorse is Awesome (an active effort to conserve as much of these species and habitat in Madagascar is underway something that could be done for some species of Arowanas) . Looking back to the early years now with the quality management that is happening now, I'm glad I didn't endorse the rape and pillage of these reptiles. I think if you can hold out for authentic legalization to be apart of a complete management system that is endorsed at all ends is worth the wait and is a luxury of legalization of these species.
 
The Us is the most anal country when it comes to common sense we shall see as much as I love this country I think sometimes our government does not have anything better to do ,most destruction of natural resources are from government intervention EX Gambusia, tilipia and the jumping fish up north.
 
If asian aro's are going to become legal in the U.S. here is what I foresee...

1) Demand/Supply - More hatcheries would farm these fish, causing prices to go down and availability to be plentiful. Interest would fall in farm bred aro's.

2) Interest in "wild" captive arowanas would increase...endangering the species in their natural environment.

Farm bred chickens are no where close in genetics as their wild counterparts.

IMO
 
Actually harvesting wild arowanas or any other wild animal is a very risky deal even when farms have legal permits. Wild animals seem to always come in flawed and either are scarred or have parasites or are very skittish. Captive born farm raised animals are the way to go.
 
benzjamin13;2156418; said:
*sigh* Even if they got legalized in the US, I'm sure California would be last on the list. :(

come and give florida a big hug:cry::cry::cry:
 
s2convt;2161877; said:
If asian aro's are going to become legal in the U.S. here is what I foresee...

1) Demand/Supply - More hatcheries would farm these fish, causing prices to go down and availability to be plentiful. Interest would fall in farm bred aro's.

2) Interest in "wild" captive arowanas would increase...endangering the species in their natural environment.

Farm bred chickens are no where close in genetics as their wild counterparts.

IMO
1.You sound like they are guppies or convicts and they are that easy to breed.
2.Interest in wild would not increase because farmed raised being inferior (look at discus)Yes you do have to watch for inline breeding but that has not affected the size of farmed jardinis and silvers.
3.When is the last time you ate a wild chicken?
 
Well I'm officially going crazy. I called my retail shop to see if the wholesalers hear could import legal Asian Arowanas due to the changing the scientific names of most of color the forms of Asian Arowanas. I called him today after a couple weeks since I first inquired and he said his wholesaler could get in a legal farm raised Super Red with CITEs paperwork (plus USA government paper work I'm assuming?) listed under the species name Scleropages legendrei not the endangered listed Scleropages formosus. I just had a brief conversation and am going to stop by his shop to hear some of the details on monday. As well I'm going to check with a fisheries professor and a friend who works for Fish and Game to make certain this is a legitimate claim and I won't have a Super Red seized ect... Interesting! Even if this is legitimate it is going to be a while before I put an Asian Arowana tank together and will have plenty of time to Iron out the details.
 
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