Asian red tail cat a monster?

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Two Hemibagrus, no matter what species, will never work in a smallish tank, perhaps not even in a big tank. The divider was the right idea. Sorry to hear.
 
Can anyone explain why the ARTC is supposed to have a stronger bite? Since it does not have the teeth of the aimara or goonch, someone said the sheer bite force is the reason why it can damage other fish so severly.
 
Any large catfish with tooth patches must have strong mouth muscles, actually on paper maybe even stronger than formidably toothed fish. It would appear harder to grab and hold on to a slippery prey with "sand paper" teeth than with large, discreet, flesh-penetrating teeth.

But this is beside the point. Sorry. Most large carnivorous and omnivorous catfish hunt or scavenge large prey and hence need strong jaw muscles. The bigger the fish, the stronger the bite. Crudely, I'd imagine all similarly built catfish of the same size probably have comparable bite strength, as in pounds per sq inch.

The difference is how they use them and for what purpose. If they wanted to, they could damage any tank mate, rip off all fins, eyes, and skin them, and then take bites out of the soft flesh, etc. They just don't want to go through all this gruesomeness :) ARTC wants to :)

The jaw strength goes toward bio-mechanics. E.g., in land mammal predators, IIRC hyenas have the strongest bite. They are able to crack open femur bones of very large animals like buffalo. The size and the built of the skull, the geometry of the attachment points of the tendons and muscles, the size of the muscles, etc. is what gives their jaws such incredible strength.
 
Crocodiles, hippos and jaguars are pretty amazing, iirc, but if one has an 80 kg ARTC is one comfortable with getting into that pond or tank should the need arise?

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Yeah i agree, but someone i this threat mentioned, that the ARTC has a stronger bite than most catfishes. This might be possible, maybe because of the shape of the skull. I always tought, that yarelli would have the strongest bite, since it is simply the biggest catfish that actually seems to hunt really big animals, but then again, bagarius could also rely on it's teeth and it seems to be less aggressive.
 
Well, you should quote them. IDK who they are but that someone should be able to defend their statements or at least clarify.

I hope it came from knowledge because I hate when people rely on my less-than-thought-through words that come out of (unstated) supposition, personal inclination, vague recollection, excessive generalization, inadequate black and white thinking, or a silly yearning to participate and be included in the crowd :)

Knowledge is barely making headway whilst ignorance propagates as chicken pox (talking of myself, in case this is unclear).
 
Post 9 from page one. But he compared catfish with hoplias, and stated, that the ARTC has a specifically strong jaw. Sorry english is not my first language.
 
I'm very pleased with this artc, won't tolerate nothing in her tank. Just wish it would be more active instead hiding all damn day long. lol
 
Confidence comes with size and age with most such fish. Self-preservation instinct tells them to hide to survive to a hard-to-eat size.
 
Maybe Moe214 can elaborate why he described the jaws of the hemibagrus catfish as specifically strong. The fact that they have to do damage without big teeth might be one factor, but this is the case for most catfishes.

Or is it just the bigger aggression of this species? On planet catfish there is a line where they say that the ARTC will even bite trough heaters, something i never read about the amazonian RTC or even bigger bagarius.
 
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