Babies and pit bulls!

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You have a very good point and alot of people don't know the stuff you said about the breeds. As for my dog . She is back with me now after someone broke in a neighbors house across the yard. I talked my land lord into keeping her for protection since most the time my wife is home alone with my son while I'm working. Your right I should have choose a different title for this thread. To be honest I respect everyones point of views on this subject but it does cause alot of arguments cause some people like the one who posted the link to those can speak from experience. They go by what they read and hear on the news. Sent from my Comet using MonsterAquariaNetwork App

Hello; I posted the links in this particular thread due to the way things went on a related thread some time back. My comments were taken to task and often dismissed as being only my opinion and thus of no more value than some other persons opinion. My thinking this time is to add some evidence from other sources. I cannot personally verify the accuracy of the various news agencies such as Fox or Huffington, nor the dog bite website. Some forum members are clearly not going to accept any criticism of their favored dog breeds and it is not a surprise that one way to down play the evidence is to express misgivings.
I have seen the video of the ten year old boy from near Knoxville TN months after being mauled by a dog. He was scarred and had lost his ears. The community was trying to rally around him and give his family support. These attacks do happen and even if some fault can be found in the details, I do not see how this evidence can be dismissed.
In the particular case of the tragic death of the three month old in Texas I did go by what I read from the news agencies. Am I to not believe that the infant was not killed by a family dog? Both news stories that I read stated that the dogs were pitbulls so yes; until some other evidence is presented I will go by those reports.
That the news agencies go for stories like shark attacks, dog attacks, shootings and such does not mean that these things do not happen. Behind the headlines that the news people run are personal tragedies that affect real people.
For the forum members that trust their dogs and have them around their children, my sincere hope is that all goes well for you and yours.
 
True. I am just saying the chances are more likely with ones that could not develop properly particularly runts. I really really dislike the idea of stuffing them inside bags. They are made to look like "fashion accessories" instead which is the reason a lot of people buy them in the first place.

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Thank you so much I agree with everything you said. I work at animal shelter and people ask how many time a pit has bitten me. Unless you count puppies who are learning to control themselves never.now Chi and toy mixes that a different story. The first true dog bite I ever had was a chihuahua.


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Hello; I posted the links in this particular thread due to the way things went on a related thread some time back. My comments were taken to task and often dismissed as being only my opinion and thus of no more value than some other persons opinion. My thinking this time is to add some evidence from other sources. I cannot personally verify the accuracy of the various news agencies such as Fox or Huffington, nor the dog bite website. Some forum members are clearly not going to accept any criticism of their favored dog breeds and it is not a surprise that one way to down play the evidence is to express misgivings.
I have seen the video of the ten year old boy from near Knoxville TN months after being mauled by a dog. He was scarred and had lost his ears. The community was trying to rally around him and give his family support. These attacks do happen and even if some fault can be found in the details, I do not see how this evidence can be dismissed.
In the particular case of the tragic death of the three month old in Texas I did go by what I read from the news agencies. Am I to not believe that the infant was not killed by a family dog? Both news stories that I read stated that the dogs were pitbulls so yes; until some other evidence is presented I will go by those reports.
That the news agencies go for stories like shark attacks, dog attacks, shootings and such does not mean that these things do not happen. Behind the headlines that the news people run are personal tragedies that affect real people.
For the forum members that trust their dogs and have them around their children, my sincere hope is that all goes well for you and yours.

I understand where you are coming from, however, if you also look at from the other side, what the pitbull owners are simply trying to downplay is social media hype that pitbulls in general are bad. Understand please that the pitbulls had undergone so much unfair treatment despite some showing temperament contrary to the media hype.

Yes, both instances you mentioned are pitbulls but how about the other breeds? I may seem biased because I happen to be a dog lover myself but you have to consider everything. Not all cases are reported and more often than not, bites by toy breeds go unreported because to their owners, it is not a big deal. It is. This is where the distortion of reports becomes incredibly dangerous. It creates an impression that to the general public, small breeds would be more pleasant to have. True in some cases but not all. The true statistics would be the one recording every dog bite perpetrated by particular breeds, regardless of size, if only everything is recorded, which sadly, it is not.

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Guys, to answer the original topic straight away, just err on the side of caution and do not leave your children especially babies unsupervised with any dogs. The choice is yours if you want to push for it, the end.

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is what I wrote untrue? how?perhaps you could name the function that Pits do better than any other breed of dog.
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I guess it would come down to your personal preference. I like the demeanor of pit bulls and they are my choice for companionship. Pits are considered "working dogs" and they're more a jack of all trades and do many tasks. Unless you use them for what they were bred for which is fighting and now weight pulling, which they do seem to be above the other breeds in performance in those two.
But if we're deciding on a breed based on function that kinda eliminates 80% of the breeds out there. Doesnt it? All the "toy" breeds, Dalmatians, the list goes on and on.
The point is, no matter what the breed, if you don't trust your dog, and even if you do--don't leave your kids unattended with them until the child is older.


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precisely... your argument is as irrelevant and as useful as asking what use does a coon hound have in the 21st century??? its pointless.... dogs now are owned for companionship over all other reasons... and any dog no matter what breed is only as good as its genetic lines and the trainer and handlers that raise it periood... you are making a mute and derogatory post about the breed if you don't have a constructive comment then why post....?
 
is what I wrote untrue? how?perhaps you could name the function that Pits do better than any other breed of dog.
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Yes it is untrue. Take my land lord for example she tried to say that my dog was viscous with out every seeing her. Then a few days ago she saw me with my dog and she was saying how sweet she is and very loyal. Then not even moments later I was attacked by that golden lab. I'm not saying any breed is better then another but each have special talents. Same reason why police only use German shepards

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I guess it would come down to your personal preference. I like the demeanor of pit bulls and they are my choice for companionship. Pits are considered "working dogs" and they're more a jack of all trades and do many tasks. Unless you use them for what they were bred for which is fighting and now weight pulling, which they do seem to be above the other breeds in performance in those two.
But if we're deciding on a breed based on function that kinda eliminates 80% of the breeds out there. Doesnt it? All the "toy" breeds, Dalmatians, the list goes on and on.
The point is, no matter what the breed, if you don't trust your dog, and even if you do--don't leave your kids unattended with them until the child is older.


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I doubt pits where actually breed for fighting back when they used dogs to do jobs. Now a days yes they are commonly breed for fighting doesn't mean the dog is going to fight. I had a pure breed red nose breed to fight. They feed him gun powder as a puppy but he was probably the sweets dog I've ever owned. Granted his mental state wasn't great but he knew right from wrong when it came to people and babies but show him another dog n he'll go crazy. I eventually put him down when he was 10 he started losing his eye and become aggressive cause he couldn't really see much. Even at his worsened state the most harm he did to any human was ripping my friends shirt that he was waving around during a conversation.

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Guys, to answer the original topic straight away, just err on the side of caution and do not leave your children especially babies unsupervised with any dogs. The choice is yours if you want to push for it, the end.

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You may think that but I can honestly say I trust my dog completely when she's alone with my son. Otherwise I wouldn't let her sleep in his room at night. She treats him like a little brother. She'll start barking if he crys not to attack him but to get our attention. Like I said before she wakes me up at night when he crys to eat or be changed. And after that attack from that golden lab I know she knows to protect all of us when the tried to go for my son she quickly tackled it and started fighting it. As I tried to brake em up and the lab turned on me and bit my arm. she bit the labs tail so hard it yelped and ran off into the woods.

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