Baby ST making a comeback?

[bomber]

Looks like a VT to me. Worth 400 to the right sucker, I mean buyer.

 

[classic-chassis]

It's a 3 bar indo.

 

[Ade]

It's a 3 bar indo.

That is blatantly indo. THE vender is making à Nice profit.
THE middle bar is Same thickness and dead straight. THE body shape is indo too. Although the 3rd body bar doesn't buldge out much, it does a little.
Just cause it's stable for 6 months, doesn't mean anything. I have had indo tigers go unstable after 2 years of being stable 24/7.

What r u feeding him as it looks a little thin.

 

[Prime322]

That is blatantly indo. THE vender is making à Nice profit.
THE middle bar is Same thickness and dead straight. THE body shape is indo too. Although the 3rd body bar doesn't buldge out much, it does a little.
Just cause it's stable for 6 months, doesn't mean anything. I have had indo tigers go unstable after 2 years of being stable 24/7.

What r u feeding him as it looks a little thin.

He or she is the sole survivor from the huge collection of datnoids that I've lost during my heater malfunction. Most of the hand picked ones is stable all the time. I just don't know the different between Vietnamese Datnoid and Indonesia Datnoid. I also got some that have ST Tail strip pattern but the two middle bars were Indo. My educated guess is that there were crossbreed between the Siamese and Indo Datnoid.

He or she is a little thin because of the stress of witnessing a genocide of datnoids last week i suppose.

 

[nomad]

It's a 3 bar indo.

what he said.

 

[Ade]

He or she is the sole survivor from the huge collection of datnoids that I've lost during my heater malfunction. Most of the hand picked ones is stable all the time. I just don't know the different between Vietnamese Datnoid and Indonesia Datnoid. I also got some that have ST Tail strip pattern but the two middle bars were Indo. My educated guess is that there were crossbreed between the Siamese and Indo Datnoid.

He or she is a little thin because of the stress of witnessing a genocide of datnoids last week i suppose.

That one is a keeper for sure .... The sole survivor. Hope u don't sell it.

 

[classic-chassis]

My educated guess is that there were crossbreed between the Siamese and Indo Datnoid.

No such thing as crossbreed or hybrid. They don't breed in captivity to the extent that allows breeders to cross them. Unless Indos have been released into rivers in both Vietnam and Cambodia in large numbers, and what we now see is a result of that. That's just silly though isn't it?

 

[T1KARMANN]

By the vendors selling 3 bar IT as ST it's becoming very hard to show people what a real ST looks like as they are thinking the 3 bar IT are ST

Some of the 3 bar indos I have seen in this thread are real nice and their is no stigma involved for me in owning a ST I just had my ST from when he was 2 inch to 20 inch + so I would still love it if it was IT

 

[Joao M]

Nothing to lose on a personal level if you're happy. The price of 3 bar indos going up in general because of the similarity to pulcher and a rarity of that fish due to being sold as pulchers..... a loss in general. IF 3 bar indos are being sold as pulchers with even the slightest knowledge on the vendors part that they're not really pulchers..........a blatant rip off.

That comment confused me...

From what I understood, they are still D. pulcher; although not Thai (Chao Praya) but Vietnam and/or Cambodjan pulcher.

I know people are used to consider ST the only really pulcher but - again from my understanding of the issue - the Vietnam and Cambodjan are of the same subpecies (D. pulcher) and not D. microlepis ("Indo").

If my assumptions are correct, it would be ok to sell them as "pulcher" but not ok to sell them as ST.

isn´t that so?

 

[classic-chassis]

I'm talking about if a vendor does not really know where they come from, i.e a good chance that they might just be high quality 3 bar indo, then it's a rip off. As in Prime322's fish, if that was sold to him as ST because it has 3 bars he's been had. It doesn't matter if the vendor knew or not, IMHO. Ignorance is not a plea for innocence.
If the vendor has bought fish and been duped into believing they're ST and is selling them as such, the vendor, in my opinion is being greedy by thinking they can turn a quick buck with something they're not sure about, and facilitating the final step in a big con.
Rule of thumb for selling things. 100% mark up 50% profit. That means the vendor is buying "st" for 200 to 300 $ a pop if they're being sold at 400$. That means that they are actually buying Pulcher in the states cheaper than collectors in Thailand can get them for, and it seems in greater numbers.
Ergo, it's a rip off. It cant be what it is supposed to be.
Vu.TT bought a "baby ST" in Vietnam, off (so he wrote) the man that caught it, it was the same price that's being written about on here i think. If not, Karun wrote he bought one in Lopburi off a "contact" which cost 400$. Zinzendorf sent me a link with pictures of baby ST for 11,000BHT up! that's the same price as the US. It's too good to be true IMHO
Have a look

http://image.ohozaa.com/show.php?id=...50e9644b6c32f6

http://image.ohozaa.com/show.php?id=...85c6d576e84ca5

As TK wrote, they tattoo fish in Thailand you know. I'ce seen parrot fish wearing Manchester Untied colours in JJ market, i kid you not.
I'm really no expert, i'd like to believe all the fish in the links are ST. I'd also like to believe i could own one if they were. But i'm not going to part with my very hard earned money when i'mnot 100% sure. Especially when i think of the numbers of IT on the pavements in little bags at JJ less that a year ago. Give it another month and the babies will be back on sale again i think. That is unless they don't go after the indos this year because of the massive number that were caught last year!

I wish i'd have never bought a Dat to be honest. LOL