bass eating a mouse?!
- Thread starter mrgrackle
- Start date
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an alternative browser.
You should upgrade or use an alternative browser.
kafiltafiisch;1489947; said:http://203.86.194.7/Images/bofnzff/metriver.jpg theres trout
but ive only heard of bass and have caught tons on mouse lures
but you have an excellent point about the calories used compared to wild fish im not saying your wrong im saying it not cruel
Sorry, I was referring to the bass, not trout. That is an interesting picture though.
Bass are opportunistic feeders, so it's not unlikely that they would eat rats or mice given the chance (video demonstrates that), and I know it happens, I've just never seen anything that shows it's a large percentage of their natural diet.
I think the bigger issue is that aquarium conditions are nowhere near those in the wild. You can't use the fact that these fish sometimes eat that kind of food in the wild as a good reason to feed them that yourself. Fish DO get injured or even die from eating certain things in the wild, so there's no reason to subject your own fish to that.
Similarly with snakes a lot of us stopped feeding live mice and rats because there were too many risks of snakes losing eyes or getting other injuries. Snakes naturally eat mice and rats, but captive conditions aren't the same and you generally want a longer life span and better health in captive specimens than wild.
and the thing is your right im just saying on many conditions in the wild it happens but in captivity your right it should not be done at all or just not often
plus the sizes of the animals do make a diffence
i feed my 20"bearded dragon a pinky mouse like once a year for fat reserves mainly and not for entertainment because its really not entertaining at all
plus the sizes of the animals do make a diffence
i feed my 20"bearded dragon a pinky mouse like once a year for fat reserves mainly and not for entertainment because its really not entertaining at all
yes it's natural for a bass to get a mouse, bird or even baby alligator occasionally in the wild. however how often do you think a bass actually get ahold of said prey item in the wild? maybe once or twice in it's life time while 99.9% of it's diet is made up of small fish, crustations etc were as it would get fed at least a mouse every couple of weeks to month or so because the guy wants to see his big badass fish in a tiny tank it a mouse.
my 16yr old eastern king had the scale above her eye split in half by a live mouse, and that was after feeding live for over 8yrs to more than dozen different kings before her. it isn't worth the risk of feeding live food to an animal just to see something die.Similarly with snakes a lot of us stopped feeding live mice and rats because there were too many risks of snakes losing eyes or getting other injuries.
kafiltafiisch;1489975; said:and the thing is your right im just saying on many conditions in the wild it happens but in captivity your right it should not be done at all or just not often
plus the sizes of the animals do make a diffence
i feed my 20"bearded dragon a pinky mouse like once a year for fat reserves mainly and not for entertainment because its really not entertaining at all
I totally agree.
It would have been difference had he given the bass a pinky or something, but a large adult mouse, hard to digest and potential for injury, was completely unwarranted, IMO. Especially when you take the size of his tank into account where the bass is probably just sitting there all day.
It was for entertainment value with absolutely no regard for the fish, which is a big part of what is wrong to me.
my 16yr old eastern king had the scale above her eye split in half by a live mouse, and that was after feeding live for over 8yrs to more than dozen different kings before her. it isn't worth the risk of feeding live food to an animal just to see something die.
Luckily me and my parents never had anything like that happen in the several years we fed live to our snakes, but we stopped breeding and feeding our own live mice after hearing several horror stories like that. Switching to frozen was a lot more convenient anyway and didn't come with the terrible smell of the mouse enclosures.
i saw a turtle take a pigeon down into the depths from the side of a lake (really a river with a dam). i assume the pigeon was getting a drink and the turtle was laying in wait.
exactly, that's my biggest issue with it. there are a lot of guys who i hear talking about how they love their fish soley for the fact that they will tear apart live feeder fish and that i find wrong, one that comes to mind was a video of a guy feeding his snake head some goldfish that were far to large for it to swallow in one bite so it kept bitting them in half, then enstead of waiting for the snakehead to finish the feeder he'd dump more in and video tap the bitten in half one gasping on the bottom of the tank slowly dying and not one person objected, everybody just kept commenting on how cool his fish was because it was tearing apart the feeders.It was for entertainment value with absolutely no regard for the fish, which is a big part of what is wrong to me.
